Freewill towards salvation is not Scriptural.

Let me start with the Priesthood of God; this is really quite a hidden message in scripture. But let me start with a few pieces.

Pieces....

Gen 37:3 Now Israel loved Joseph more than all his children, because he was the son of his old age: and he made him a coat of many colours (Heb) Pieces).
KJV

Hebrew OT:6446

Pieces: pac (pas); from OT:6461; properly, the palm (of the hand) or sole (of the foot) [compare OT:6447]; by implication (plural) a long and sleeved tunic (perhaps simply a wide one; from the original sense of the root, i.e. of many breadths):

I like the thought of pieces more; you see it is line upon line, precept upon precept; here a little there a little that is how you find truth.

Today we have all kinds of religious clothing; Baptist clothing, Catholic clothing etc. pieces.


Priesthood.

The priesthood of scripture is something very foreign to many believers understanding; they are so caught up in their doctrines of damnations they do not see the glory.

Take note in the word Zion/Sion.

Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion (the high places of Ruleship in the kingdom) to judge the mount of Esau (Flesh); and the kingdom shall be the LORD's.


Ex. 19:5-6: "And ye shall be unto Me A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS." The full text reads, "Now, therefore, if ye will obey My voice indeed, and keep My covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto Me above all people: for all the earth is Mine: and ye shall be unto Me A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS, and an holy nation."

God’s intentions from the first was He desired a kingdom of Priest but the Children of Israel were not equipped for they did not have the Holy Spirit to lead them and guide them in all truth. So God called forth men like Moses and David as a type of the Priesthood to come. David was a perfect example of this royal Priesthood.

We could not think of a disobedient people being for God - "a peculiar treasure, a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation." The apostle Peter speaks of the saints as "children of obedience"; they are begotten of that nature, and characterized by it. He speaks of "being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the living and abiding Word of God" (I Pet. 1:14, 23). Man after the flesh is born of corruptible seed, but there is another generation born of incorruptible seed, who desire earnestly the pure milk of the Word, and then the strong meat of the Word, and who grow up into the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Christ by it. They become "a chosen race, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a people for a purpose" (I Pet. 2:9). Just what the Lord proposed in Exodus chapter 19.


Acts 15:16-18

16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

17 That the residue (remainder) of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.


What is the Tabernacle of David?

Revelations 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

I work afternoons so I cannot go into a lot of detail now.

 

I did see those words. But I did not see "God called". I have ready given verses on God drawing and quickening so if you are claiming to refute What God's Word has declared then please let us total message not a word out of context.

 

First of all the non spiritual carnal man cannot believe for he has not been called YET. The word condemn can also mean "damn", judged, probated. Jesus judgements are just.

 

Matt 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Yes this is a parable and yes the settingis those already in the kingdom for they were his servants. These are believers not the lost.

Just like the 10 virgins, a virgin is a believer.

So is a goat.

 

Baby goat

I agree with you it would be a strange teaching if some one was believing God’s needed to burn up anyone, especially believers; but this is not what the original language shows us. God's fires are spiritual in nature. The same fire that God's spirit poured out on the day of pentecost is the same fire in the lake of divine purging.


Matt 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divided his sheep from the goats:


Please some one turn the light on.

A sheep is a mature believe, a sheep is a very loyal to His master and eats only the best of the grasses. As a boy I notice the farmer would give the sheep the second and third cuttings of grass; full of leaves and substance. A cow would eat the first cutting the lesser of the hay crop, made up of stems and little leaf compared to the earlier cuttings. Of course a goat will eat any garbage as long as it is in front of his nose.


Now I want to go to Matt 25:32 and I note; many are assuming a goat is a non believer, all it is your assumption, look at the Greek; I see a goat as an immature believer (baby goat); who are separated because of their spiritual immaturity. Many are mature in their little religious box; but are immature spiritually; they have that immature goat nature.

Sheep Separated from Goats

Matt 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divided his sheep from the goats:


Where on the other hand a goat or the Greek word (eriphos or kid; baby goat) So I see it as God separating his Sheep mature from His immature kids; spiritually speaking)
NT:2056


1 Corin 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come.

On the other hand a goat is also a clean animal, now if you the verse referred to a pig or unclean animal I would agree with the traditional teaching. A pig would be a great example of the unjust/heathen; but a goat was used all though out the OT as a sacrificial animal’ so how can it be the unjust? (scrape goat); and why would God burn up a baby goat in everlasting fire; what did the baby goat do?

Actually nothing; the unqualified and unjust and bias translators obvious made a grave error in the word everlasting and should of translated it ages (NT:166 Aionios). The word means ages; limit duration. The has happen a number of times in scripture and can be easily proven by the context of the verse.


But according to these bias translators God is going to send a baby goat to everlasting fire.

Matt 25:41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels

So many of God’s people are goats and all they eat is garbage; in other words damnable heresies or heresies of damnation/condemnations/ all those heresies that condemn people to torture.

Is not a goat a clean animal; how can a goat be the unsaved; the unsaved are defiled; Jesus was a Jew and knew all the clean and unclean animal. So you are saying we should throw away all the OT types and dismiss them and replace them with bias Christian assumptions?

 

Of course the Holy Spirit quickened them; how else does a carnal unspiritual person who is totally dead spiritually can get saved? I already posted Ephesians 2: 1-8 which must be read in context and John 6;44 and no one so far has posted one verse in support of man having a choice or freewill to save himself.

This is so true. No I am not assuming; I posted how God’s Spirit saves all of us. Not one verse has been presented to me about the unspiritual man saving himself; every verse that has been given either pertained to those already saved or was from the Old Testament. You are the one assuming.

 

Please if you are going to attack someone’s believe let us use God’s Word not our opinion. According to Rome all protestants were heretics; that too was an opinion from religious men NOT GOD's Word.

Universalism is not unbiblical; it is just un-orthodox, orthodoxy is Biblical in the context of Baby-lon. Notice who the false prophet; notice the content of the verse.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Strong’s NT:684 apoleia (ap-o'-li-a); from a presumed derivative of NT:622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal):

KJV - damnable (-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, pernicious ways, waste.

This is what you are preaching not me; notice what the Greek says the false prophets bring. Do they bring the message that God will save all; do they bring the good news of salvation to the whole earth. No they bring damnations to billions, total annihilation and destruction , perish etc.

Your whole doctrine centers on damnations, eternal torture, and the pagan word hell; you are the one preaching heresies of damnation; not me.

Now prove your point using the Bible instead of your bias opinion. So if Universalism is heresey please chapter and verse?

Now prove your point using the Bible instead of your bias opinion. So if Universalism is heresy please chapter and verse?

 

Jesus may be the Lion of Judah for He is many things but His wrath is the wrath of the lamb.

Please explane the wrath of the lamb?

His fires are spiritual in nature; why would a spiritual God need literal fire? To cook hotdogs? hell to is a pagan would and never should of been mistraslated in scripture.,

His sword is the Word of God.

His plagues are spiritual in nature.

 

And your point?

 

I understand why you feal this way but you are wrong. The tremendous error in those who dare believe that Jesus came to damn not save. That his precious blood he shed on Calvary did not totally reverse the sin of Adam. I pointed out the priesthood of God earlier in this thread and no one dare address it.

Why?

Are not these verses not scriptural or are we picking and choosing parts of God's Word to promote what we believe and not what God's Word says/

I believe there are two points of view in the Bible. There is the letter that killeth. Then there is the logos, the spiritual hidden Word that is divine.