Fried Chicken Baptists

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  1. try hard

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    "Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own.

    you were brought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" I Cor. 6:19-20

    We live in a day when people are over-indulging themselves with just about everything. People are living to eat and not eating to live. I believe it is a sin not to take care of your body. He has bought us and we belong to Him. I really got serious about my health about two years ago and I am in the best shape of my life. It is not difficult to work out or eat right, plus it is biblical.

    Living for God does prolong your days, but what good is that if your out of shape, overweight, and sleeping all of the time because you have no energy! You need to be about doing your Father's business.

    Here is my question: To what degree of not taking care of your body turns into sin, if it is a certain degree?

    p.s. Fellow baptists: three servings of fried chicken and corn bread are enough! [​IMG] Especially you baptists here in the south!
     
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    I'm not from the South... Does Southern California count?... There is a bucket of KFC with my name on it!... I would be very careful what you say about the South... You don't even want to get Granny Gumbos dander up... do you?... Hey New Baptist Kid On The Block you were warned!... While we are waiting would you mind passing me a drumstick?... Brother Glen :eek:

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  3. Sherrie

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    Fried chicken! Someone said Fried chicken! Hey kids....its fried chicken night on the BaptistBoard! Get the baggies....we can always eat leftovers later! :D

    Sherrie [​IMG]
     
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    I believe that God wants His children to take care of their bodies. We are to be fit for the Master's use at all times.
    1Thess 4:4 "That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;"

    Paul brings out a tremendous truth when he declares that he will not allow his body or physical appetites to take control.
    1Cor 9:27 "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway."

    Whenever we let ourselves go to the point that we are no longer bringing honor to God, I'd say that is sin.

    Regarding your fried chicken comment, I got hooked on it when in Bible College. That's about all we could afford. It was chicken one day, and feathers the next.
     
  5. try hard

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    Wow! I didn't know fried chicken existed in California! No way, they doesn't count. Does your dialect include ya'll, ain't, and fixin (Like your fixin to do something). I even say words I don't even know how to pronounce! :D

    A typical Mom.

    Absolutly true. But we live a totally different time and obesity has became a major problem in America. We are THE country of fast food restauraunts. Many countries already look at Americans as ignorant, they don't need to look at us as lazy too.
     
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    I know this and agree with it, but I am looking for some specific answers.

    At what point are we no longer bringing honor to God?
     
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    Fried chicken is next to godliness.

    But I prefer a chicken-fried steak.

    [ August 29, 2002, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: rsr ]
     
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    I knew I was called to preach when:

    (1) I woke up one morning and didn't want to get out of bed

    (2) In the process of finally getting up--I started craving fried chicken!
     
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    When do we start to look at exercise as sin? I Tim 4:8: For bodily exercise profiteth little...?
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    Then, as for eating...Ecc2:24 There is nothing better for a man, than to eat and drink...and Ps 22:29: All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship... [​IMG]

    And then there is what we are eating. A low fat diet; no sugar?: Isa 7:22 And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk that they shall give shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall everyone eat that is left in the land. Or maybe no meat, or the Atkins diet?; Gen 9:5 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you...& Luk 9:16-17 And he took the five loaves...And they did eat, and were all filled.

    The point being, who made the guide lines for "proper" weight to height ratio? Most people tend to get softer as they age. Is this part of God's plan? or were all people of Bible times thin and physically fit? People of today are lazier, and eat so much prepared, boxed/canned food. So do we look at this issue? Is it sin to eat frozen pizza or drink powdered ice tea? Maybe we should take Jesus' example and for the next Baptist fellowship have some fresh pressed grape juice and a handful of wheat grain from the stalk? [​IMG]
     
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    The reason we have such a obese society is not just because of fast food or junk food or tv dinners or the lack of exercise we live in a country that is run by stress.

    This is a high stress nation. We are always on the run. Go, Go, Go. There never is enough time for Americans because we all want the American dream. This is why we are riddled with so much disease in this nation.

    Stress causes people to overeat. The laziness causes people to not be able to overcome the excessive eating and gaining weight.

    I am overweight I admit. I have been on diets and exercised but now I have a ruptured disc in my back and exercising causes too many problems
    including walking very long and doctors don't
    want to do surgery and on top of all of this I have had doctor after doctor say that more people cause themselves heart problem from all the yo-yo dieting. It is better to be overweight then lose and gain and lose and gain.
     
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    Surly you understand you have taken this verse out of context.This verse is not saying that exercise profits little. Here's the whole verse:

    "For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come."

    Paul is saying that compared to having godliness, bodily exercise does little. Exercise has tons of benefits. Many people these days use exercise these days as a means of overcoming things in their life, such as hurt, anger, and depression. The reading of God's Word and prayer should be the means to overcome problems, not exercise. Exercise is for the body, not for the spirit. But like Paul says, your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.(The House).

    Are you spending more time taking care of the house you live in instead of the house the Holy Spirit dwells in?

    Good verse, but the word fat here is not referring to the fat on a person's body. The NIV translates that verse like this "All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;"

    The greek word here used for fat is "dasen". Heres the definition "rich:pertaining to food which is fresh and possibly juicy".
    The verse says to let them eat, not overeat. I am not saying that it is a sin to eat pizza, potato chips, and hamburgers. I believe it is a sin to over indulge in unhealthy foods. You are not taking care of the house of God.

    My mom has a ruptured disk also. That is a valid reason not to exercise. What about eating right? So don't go on "diets". Stay consistent with the way you eat and use moderation when you eat unhealthy foods. I eat right six days a week and on Sundays, I eat whatever I want to eat. And like I said before, I am in great shape. Consistently eating right is better than yo-yo dieting. It can be done.

    Think about this: Every food that that is natural{fruit, meat, nuts, milk, vegetables} is good for you. God made it that way. No food that is natural is bad for you unless you are allergic to them! [​IMG]
     
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    Tri Hard,

    While I am certain that the OliveBranch's post was merely in jest, if you want to get technical about it, your verse was also taken out of context.

    It was the act of committing sexual sins that made one sin against their own body. That has nothing to do with food.

    Not that I disagree with the point you are making, but the verse in question doesn't really speak to the issue of food.

    ~Lorelei
     
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    Just live in another country for a while and upon your return you'll realize that Americans are extremely over-weight.
    Ol Trapper
     
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    To answer your question when is it sin. To him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin. That includes me.
    Murph
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG] LOL Bro Glen! Don't forget the mashed potatoes with plenty of gravy!
     
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    Thank you for reminding me to clear that up! [​IMG] The passage in context is talking about sexual sin. However, the fact is the body is the house of God, as Paul stated. That was I was trying to point out.

    And I will ask this question again "Are you spending more time taking care of the house you live in instead of the house the Holy Spirit dwells in?
    p.s. Jesus exercised. He walked everwhere, including on the water! :D When He got tired, he took boat rides. He even slept why it was storming. :D

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    Tri Hard,
    Ecc 10:19 "A feast is made for laughter..." :D :D

    Or maybe you are too serious about fat?

    I was j o k i n g!!

    On the more serious side (I do have one), I was on the hallelujah diet for over a year and had never felt better. All those raw foods and enzymes mae me feel really good. But, due to a crisis in the family, I temporarily fell away from a total raw diet. I know that when I was young, energy was more abundant, as was quicker results. Sleep was more restful, and my body felt better. God does keep a balance on things. Nothing stops the aging process, but I know that we need to keep things in order. I agree with Murph.

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    Since I've been losing weight the past nine months, I've kinda lost my appetite for fried chicken [​IMG]
     
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    Hi Tri Hard. Great topic! There is nothing pertaining to Biblical salvation that is associated with being physically fit. The Bible is clear. The flesh profits nothing (John 6: 63).

    Yes, it is BETTER to be fit and eat a proper diet for health reasons. However, your post seems to suggest that there is a “salvation” component to physical fitness – to which I can find nothing in the Bible to support.

    True, the Bible says that we should not be “gluttonous” with food (Deut. 21: 20, Prov. 23: 21). However, the word “gluttony” implies utter gorging – a drunkenness of food consumption. Eating fried chicken can hardly be considered “gluttony” (though one person eating a barrel of KFC in one sitting might be). [​IMG]

    The LORD was accused of being “gluttonous” (Matt. 11: 19, Luke 7: 34). I don’t believe this accusation was true (I’m inclined to believe it was just a false accusation leveled against the LORD by the hypocrite religionists). However, there are many illustrations in the Bible where the LORD enjoyed good eating – often using “food” as a means to engage his audience (Matt. 15: 35-37, Luke 9: 16, John 21: 8-13).

    Paul suggests that it is perfectly okay to be FULL with food (he had been at times) and equally ok to be hungry without it, which he was at times too (Philipians 4: 12).

    I conclude that a healthy diet, with appropriate exercise, is a wise undertaking. However, with respect to salvation or spiritual matters, the best exercise is when we gingerly move our hands over to the Bible - and start to study. One can NEVER do enough “sets and repetitions” with that!

    latterrain77
     
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    If you want a strict definition, I think that it becomes a sin at 205 pounds. Wow, that was close. I am just under it by a pound.

    Okay, I agree that abuse of the body can be a sin (though to abuse it for the sake of the gospel might be just the opposite), but I think my problem would be the other way around. When is spending to much time in the weight room a sin. I certainly spend more time on my body then my house (I don't even have a house) but I tend to spend more time on my body then in prayer, and to this Paul's verse could be applied quite literarly. Of course, my motivations arn't pure either, for I am not usually trying to sustain the temple of Holy Spirit as you might say (though I might eat right for that) but to look good.
     

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