Fruit

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  1. Walls

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    Mt 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

    The Bible says God's spirit produces these fruits:

    Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
    23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    What are the fruits of an evil spirit?
     
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    Proverbs 6:[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

    [17] A proud look,

    a lying tongue,

    and hands that shed innocent blood,

    [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,

    feet that be swift in running to mischief,

    [19] A false witness that speaketh lies,

    and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    Oops! That's OT. Someone here will say that doesn't apply to today because we are "under grace."

    Waiting for the inevitable post.... :rolleyes:
     
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    Yep! D'em Proverbs are for life! Always will be, that's why they call'em Proverbs.

    You can corral up all the evil fruits right within those 7. Each is the very basis for evil, prompted by the root of all evil, the love of money.
     
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    How is the love of money the root of all evil? Surely you don't believe that. Sounds like this needs to go to the translations forum.

    Doesn't say a word about money there, and most — if not all of these sins — don't require the presence or incentive of money.
     
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    In addition the things mentioned in the Proverbs, there are a number of things a person can point to, I suppose… and some will overlap/reinforce others. I don’t believe there are any "fruits of an evil spirit" mentioned specifically as such in the Bible. However, the works of the flesh are inherently evil, as are demonic/satanic influences, of course.

    I would venture to say that probably the highest thing on a list like that would be the spirit of antichrist – the rejection of Jesus Christ and all He did for those who believe. I suppose it (spirit of antichrist) should include “false Christ’s” as well.

    Another thing might be walking in the flesh… the works of the flesh… failing to do those things which are pleasing to God. A lot of people have been saved but still walk after the flesh rather than minding the things of the Spirit… “carnal-Christians” so to speak.

    And actually, a very good place to find a description of some ‘fruits of an evil spirit’ is right there in Scripture where the fruit of the (Holy) Spirit, itself, is described. Note that there is only one fruit of the Spirit… and those things listed are attributes (or qualities if you prefer) of that one fruit... and, further, that the first attribute mentioned is none other than: Love! (Somewhat like the “sap” of the “vine”.)

    Another little description in general…
    And then there’s the “coming apostasy” of “evil fruit” (STS)…

    Which brings to mind false teachers and false prophets… I would think that they exhibit ‘fruits of an evil spirit’.

    Another little glimpse…
    And those that may violate closure of Scripture in…

    …for some led of seducing spirits… will…

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    Hmmm... sorry... I musta got a little carried away with that... and to think I really don't like long posts...

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    Dp, I don't mind the long post at all. Very informative!

    It seems that there seems to be a common denominator in all of these; pride, lying, and a manner of strife.

    I also believe that this passage you pointed out is right on target; 2 Pet 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

    Many Baptist believe that their friends and family get caught up by cults because they are fascinated with what they hear. To often it is likewise with some Baptist preachers. They preach to promote their agenda and are motivated by pride and use lies and strife to further their gospel.

    Praise the Lord! He gave us His word and if we study to shew ourselves worthy we can spot 'em and turn away.

    2Tim 3: 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
     
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    Uh, the 7 abominations are directly related to gain, and money is gain. Worldy gain is idolatry and anything that is not of faith is sin, so "sufficient unto the day IS the evil thereof" specifically applies to the "love" of money which is the root of all evil

    5365 filarguria philarguria fil-ar-goo-ree’-ah

    from 5366; ; n f

    AV-love of money 1; 1

    1) love of money, avarice

    4491 riza rhiza hrid’-zah

    apparently a primary word; TDNT-6:985,985; n f

    AV-root 17; 17

    1) a root
    2) that which like a root springs from a root, a sprout, shoot
    3) metaph. offspring, progeny

    2556 kakov kakos kak-os’

    apparently a primary word; TDNT-3:469,391; adj

    AV-evil 40, evil things 3, harm 2, that which is evil + 3458 2, wicked 1, ill 1, bad 1, noisome 1; 51

    1) of a bad nature
    1a) not such as it ought to be
    2) of a mode of thinking, feeling, acting
    2a) base, wrong, wicked
    3) troublesome, injurious, pernicious, destructive, baneful

    Uh, the "love" of money IS the "root" of all "evil".

    No, but the incentive of gaining money can be directly related to all 7 abominations though, huh?
     
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    The "love of money" is just another place where the KJV failed, miserably.

    It should read that the "love of money is the root of all kinds of evil".

    You see, in 1 John 2, it tells us that the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life, are the root sins.

    Nice work KJV translators, you failed again.
     
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    Daniel David, you seem to be obsessed with the KJV. I am not a moderator, but this is a thread I posted and it has nothing to do with Bible versions. Do you think you can stick to the topic?
     
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    It has to do with the topic by responding to the idea that money is the root of all evil (what would prevent fruit). See now?
     

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