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Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by SaggyWoman, Nov 23, 2012.
Are there any left?
Yes. Why do you ask?
More than ever. The most recent survey says we there are about 13,000 fundamental Baptist churches in the US alone. This doesn't count the 1000s of churches in other countries which sometimes send students to the States.
The three that come to mind first are:
Maranatha Baptist Bible College and Seminary, Watertown, WI
International Baptist College, Chandler, AZ
Faith BBC, Ankeny, IA
And standalone seminaries:
Central Baptist Seminary, Plymouth, Minn.
Calvary Baptist Seminary, Lansdale, PA
I was told some years ago by Dr. Bob III that nowadays the student body of BJU is about 95% fundamental Baptist.
In addition to the above are the following non-KJVO schoools (not even including BBF & GARBC schools):
Northland International U.
Shepherds Theolgical Seminary (new but a great start)
Piedmont Baptist College & grad school
Clearwater Christian College
Golden State Baptist College
Baptist College of Ministry
Virginia Baptist College
Grace Baptist Bible College (Winston-Salem; up and coming)
Etc.--various smaller schools
The following are more TR-only/preferred or KJV-only:
Ambassador Baptist College
Pensacola Christian College & Theological Seminary
Commonwealth Baptist College
Trinity Baptist College
West Coast Baptist College
Etc.--many smaller, local church sponsored schools
In addition, all over the world are Bible schools, colleges and seminaries founded by fundamental missioanries. In Japan we have a BBF school, a Baptist Mid-Missions school (where I taught in the '80s & early 90's, and teach by video still), and a BIMI school. Here in Hokkaido I head a distance education ministry but we have no full time students: Hokkaido Bible Research Institute.
My daughter's alma mater, Cedarville University
Shepherds College is a new one.
Wondering what Definition of "Fundamentalist" is being used here? It does fit the early definition of believing the fundamentals of the faith...if so, then all the SBC Seminaries & some of of their colleges would also fit.
For many various and sundry reasons, the SBC never embraced the Fundamentalist movement back in the 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. One factor was Fundamentalism's non-denominational characteristics.
Also, for the most part with are using "Fundamentalist" in its current usage.
More appropriate is the concept of Militant, Separated, or Radical Fundamentalists.
I myself claim to hold to the fundamentals of the Christian faith, but so do many Catholics (VB, resurrection, trinity, etc). But I consider myself an evangelical not a fundamentalist. I am conservative for the most part, but still avoid and despise the term fundamentalism for what it has become.
Piedmont International University now
Yes, one is Southeastern Baptist College in Laurel, MS.
Now that you mention it, I had heard that. Thanks! :wavey:
The early fundamentalists (1920s to 1940s) did more than just believe the fundamentals. They took a stand for them in their denominations against liberalism. The result was that many of them were ousted from their denominations (John R. Rice in the SBC, the Bible Presbyterians such as J. Gresham Machen, etc.), others left their denominations in protest (GARBC, WBF, etc.) while others were viciously opposed while staying in their denominations (W. B. Riley in the N. Baptists).
How true, how true. These men put their feet (in separating from error) and muscle (raising new institutions) into their beliefs.
So you would say that the definition of a "fundamentalist" College would be defined more by their history than their current stance? The reason I ask is that I have not heard Cedarville refered to as "fundamentalist" very often, I would think of it as more "evangelical"...but It did come from the GARBC, which I guess you would say DOES make it fundamentalist?
Also, would you say it makes sense to say that the Conservative SBC Resurgence was a move of "fundamentalism"?
"Fundamentalism" has broadened over the past few years, but I don't think that the hard-core IFBs will ever allow themselves to think that the Conservative SBC's are just as "fundamental". It's the nature of the beast. Even though I don't like it or agree with it, I've learned to accept it.
A liberal friend of mine once described me as conservative but not fundamentalist, because I wasn't mad at anybody.
There are colleges which were formerly fundamentalist but now shun the name and position, so I wouldn't say that a fundamentalist college can be defined by their history. The position of the school versus theological liberalism is much more important.
As to Cederville and the GARBC, I'm not sure I can answer that very well, not being GARBC, not ever having been connected with Cedarville and not being in the States. Taking a look at their website, if you use the search there are a number of articles mentioning fundamentalism in a positive way, in particular in the PDF documents of a history of the institution done for their 100th anniversary.
Yes, to the extent that liberalism was actively and successfully opposed in the schools and mission boards in particular. Those battles are right down the line when compared to the early fundamentalist battles.
Do the SBC leaders, profs and pastors who actively opposed liberalism want to be called fundamentalists? Once again, I don't think I'm qualified to tell, not being in the SBC and not having researched the subject. I do know a prof at Southeastern (where my son is pursuing his Ph. D.) who told me how the liberals were ousted there.
Well that settles it!:laugh: