Fundamental Hypocrites

well csmith I am a IFB but its not a sin to go to the beach. But to be around all of the immodesty that would be there would probably make you think of ungodly things and it would probably be adultery, and that my friend is a sin.

 

I agree Brtiney. It is dangerus at best to go anyplace where you know people will be immodestly dressed.

 

I also agree. In my home town we have one of those "Water Parks". You can drive by it everyday during the summer and you will see (through no fault of your own) the most skimpy outfits imaginable. We call it "The Snake Pit" LOL
It is not a sin to swim, but it sure could tempt one to sin in their heart should one swim "co-ed" in todays environment.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

I think csmith has a point. Often the emphasis is place on things like going to the beach, or a TV, these are nuetral things. Sin is a heart problem, a TV, or going to the beach do not make me sin, rather I choose to sin.

I disagree with CCM, but rocky music itself is not a sin. If it was I would be in sin whenever I am in a grocery store, or take my wife out to eat.

If I willfuly listen to music that will hinder my relationship with Christ and that does not glorify God, I then am commiting sin.

 

Of course that makes sense, yet when ome says "go to the beach" your first thought is a public beach with people barely in swimsuits. I don't anyone would says its sinful to go to a beach in Ireland in the winter.

 

it is the age old battle that legalistic Christians try to put on us. You must do what the Holy Spirit tells you to do...and your walk with God is your walk with God, no ones else's.
I am not sinning when I go to the beach because I don't lust after anyone there anymore than I do anywhere else. How silly.

 

There are three ways in which Christians live:

In legalism
In licenciouness
In the liberty of Christ. Obviously this is the way we ought to strive after.

 

I am glad that you and man other IFB Pastors are taking internal look at their churches and the movement as a whole.I am glad that you and man other IFB Pastors are taking internal look at their churches and the movement as a whole. I have been in IFB churches my whole life(I am a member and teacher at one now) and still believe they are salvagable.

It was encouraging for me to recently talk with the Senior Pastor of and IFB church in my area who told me that he has heard of good discussions going on right now at fundamental baptist seminaries. I am really excited to see the return to our core beliefs in the next 10 years or so - God willing.

What you are talking about is the very thing my website is dedicated to http://www.ifbreformation.org

We need to get back to fundamentals, and clean out all the garbage and man-made rules that have built up over the years.

Colossians 2:20-23(NASB)

" 20 If you have died with Christ to the (BB)elementary principles of the world, (BC)why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as,

21"Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!"

22(which all refer to things destined to perish with use)--in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?

23These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.

We need to stop submitting to the rules of legalism(self-made religion and commandments and teachings of men) and get back to teaching what God says. I have never said I think it is wrong for a IFB Pastor to share his opinion on an issue not expressely talked about in the scriptures - it becomes wrong though, when he fails to distinguish between his opinions on issues and what the Word of God actually says.

IFBReformer

 

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What is the sin in a man having a beard?

Is there something wrong with me...I go to the beach with my family, go on cruises, and can honestly say I don't pay attention to the swimsuits of others. Maybe I've just grown callous or too old, but it doesn't bother me what the women are wearing at the beach or on cruise ships.

 

I wear a beard and have for years.

Part of my beach/swimsuit problem is that I have five sons. I may be able to train my eyes, but consider it unwise to expose my sons to near nudity.

 

Should we not be willing to give up our 'rights' if they may cause us to stumble? I know firsthand what the fruit of lusting after women is, and I know that immodest women are waiting at the beach. What's a free-willed Christian who likes to swim to do? I know that if God wants me to swim, there will be a big swimming hole in the kingdom waiting for me if I will just walk after Him for the short time that I am in this corrupt body.

 

I will never trust my eyes again as long as I live! Well, maybe someday, when I have cataracts, I will be able to go to the beach

 

csmith, what I was asking, is why would anyone think a man wearing a beard is a sin...not necessarily now but in the past. I remember as a child hearing people saying a man shouldn't wear a beard, but never heard the reasoning.

Any one have an idea what the reasoning was???