Future Influence of the HCSB?

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  1. uhdum

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    I noticed on Lifeway's website that the complete Holman Christian Standard Bible is now available.

    How do you think this translation will fare in evangelical circles?

    Also, I know that HCSB threads have started before... but do any of you know how it measures up in quality of translation? (e.g. "better" than the NIV, more readable than NASB, etc." Not familiar with the translation yet and was wondering y'all's opinions (too lazy to scour archived threads :D )

    God bless!
     
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  3. Phillip

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    I do not know how it rates as far as actual translation, but I did enjoy reading portions of the New Testament that were sold for $4.00 (good price for a hardback--bet you don't get the whole thing for anything even close.)

    It reminds me of the NIV as far as "reading level", but maybe a little easier to read. Maybe better sentence construction.

    I know NOTHING about the translation and where it lies in the Word-for-word to thought-for-thought range.

    With the marketing arm behind it, I would expect it to surpass the ESV, although I like the ESV better for "study".
     
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    I think your link is pretty factual from what I have read in other places. Thanks for posting it.

    I do know a lot of people are having a problem with the NIV simply because of the "gender-neutral" bible that they announced they would print.

    In other words, even if the translation is good, why put money in their pockets to produce an inferior translation. That has always been the reason I have never rated the NIV very high, not because it is not a decent translation.

    The NIV's licensing fees and copyright fees are quite high compared to others like the NASB and even the ESV. You can get a feel for it by how much it costs for your Bible software to contain an NIV version.

    My guess is that they decided they could not only make money from their own translation, but save a LOT in royalty fees to NIV's publishers. Just a guess though.
     
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    I've been teaching my Sunday School class
    from Lifeway Bible book series for the
    last two quarters using the HCSB as the
    primary source for the key verses and the
    KJV1769 for the secondary source.

    The HCSB seems about as modern in language
    as the New King James Version (NKJV).
    The HCSB seems as accurate as the KJV1769.

    At least the HCSB was translated by
    some Baptists instead of Church of England folk.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I got me a hot copy of
    HOLY BIBLE, Red-Letter Edition,
    Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB).

    I think i'll use it for my main,
    to church carrying Bible. [​IMG]
     
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    I got an advance copy of the NT about a year and a half ago and I love it! IMHO, it has the accuracy and literalness of the NASB and the readability of the NIV--the best of both worlds. I highly recommend it.
     
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    Was it a freebie or did you pay for it? (I know, none of my business) just curious to know how much it cost and the quality of the paper, binding and type of cover, etc. I do have the New Testament ever since it was published, the Baptist Bookstore ('scuse me) -- Lifeway on 71st in Tulsa didn't even know they had it. I had to find it for them. It was only $2.98 (marked down from $4 wow! I bet the full Bible isn't such a bargain. :D
     
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    I have to tell you. I have read the New Testament and I do like it and think it makes a very good alternative to the NIV.

    For heavier study, I still rate my ESV as numero uno. Maybe after I read the entire Broadman, I may change.
     
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    $14.99
    six months constant use
    my wife got one also
    bought online before books sent out
     
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    With Lifeway putting it in the Sunday School quarterlies it will have a large impact, especially in SBC churches. I have read parts of the NT and don't really care for the overall style of short, somewhat choppy sentences. It also has the growing reputation of being a "baptist" translation. I think there are better translations out there ESV for one.
     
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    I have abd read the NT .I will probably get the Complete Bible .
     
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    I was going to check out a verse in Crosswalk.com
    it had the HCSB New Testament.
    HCSB is gone from Crosswlak.com

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hey, Ed...

    Try StudyLight.org for the HCSB NT...the entire Bible should be there sometime after the April 15th publication date.
     
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    Hi Ed...it's still at Crosswalk. It's listed under CSB (Christian Standard Bible).

    That's also the way it's listed on StudyLight.org.

    Guess they can only use 3 letters!! [​IMG]

    CJ
     
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    right now HCSB (New Testament only) is
    at crosswalk.com

    Luke 21:24 (HCSB):

    They will fall by the edge of the sword
    and be led captive into all the nations;
    and Jerusalem will be trampled by the
    Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles
    are fulfilled.
     
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    Just got one of those Thursday as well [​IMG]

    I had been anxiously awaiting my trip to Lifeway to pick it up and finally had a chance to drop by the other day. I like it so far.

    God bless!
     
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    I just picked up a copy and am really pleased by what I have read so far. I have noticed that the HCSB takes the more "cutting edge" approach to translational difficulties - the same as the ESV. For example:

    Mal. 2:16 (HCSB):
    "If he hates and divorces [his wife]," says the LORD God of Israel, "he covers his garment with injustice," says the LORD of Hosts. Therefore, watch yourselves carefully, and do not act treacherously.

    Mal 2:16 (ESV):
    "For the man who hates and divorces, says the LORD, the God of Israel, covers[10] his garment with violence, says the LORD of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless."

    While the more "traditional" translation is:

    Mal 2:16 (NASB):
    "For I hate divorce," says the LORD, the God of Israel, "and him who covers his garment with wrong," says the LORD of hosts. "So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously."

    From what I can tell, the HCSB is very similar to the ESV, but with many more textual helps (i.e. notes on textual variances, proper names of God, etc.) I hate to say it because I love using the ESV, but with the marketing power of the SBC, I don't see how the ESV has a chance of becoming mainstream.

    Overall, it is a real pleasure to read. Does anyone know if they have a leather bound version out yet?
     
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    BTW: Those of you who have purchased a copy, can you check page 872. Do you have a typo on the top of the page in the reference? It should be Luke 5:16, mine says, Luke 3:16.
     
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    Great!!!!!!! I'll just save
    the ESV and save $50 ;)
     

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