Gail Riplinger on the Sinking of the Titanic and the NIV

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    very hard to follow. But she did mention Led Zeppelin. ;)

    I would have posted sooner, but I stopped to watch a couple of other spots by James White. He's NOT at all hard to follow ;)
     
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    Probably makes perfect sense to some.
     
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    Your post reminded me of something I heard this week at our state convention... it is a new medical diagnosis..

    ADHD OS

    Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder... OH Shiny!:laugh:

    Don't let the "Oh Shinys" distract us!
     
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    I got lost when she said the ASV was introduced in 1912 ... (it was 1901)
     
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    Ah, yes, that's a common problem many have. It's really quite simple to grasp, when you remember that all modern versions are given inception dates in dog years. It helps with the KJVO bookkeeping.




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    "Knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men..." 2 Corinthians 5:11

    The Bible speak of mockers and scoffers in the last days, and it's really sad when it's people who call themselves Christians who lower themselves into this cesspool and become the actual mockers and scoffers and accusers of the brethren.

    It's emphatically clear from her words, when viewed in context, that Gail Riplinger was COMPARING the Titanic to modern day Bible versions (New Age Bibles),as their end result is sadly the same - just as the Titanic sank, so will New Age Bible versions sink one's faith and probably assist people in accepting the New Age Christ. To compare or emphasize something to get one's point across, is a known basic factm people compare what they are saying to something else which has similar circumstances and/or results. I do it a lot when training people, or when speaking to people of a different culture or language. There is nothing wrong with it.

    But the guy in this video (James White?), twists it and uses it to his advantage, and lands up to be nothing but a modern day mocker and scoffer. His point is to make Gail look like she doesn't know what she's talking about, i.e., a crazy woman. It's tragic when a Christian who calls himself a Christian has sink to this level. I wouldn't like to be in his shoes on judgment day though, because he shows absolutely no love for the brethren, nor does he have any love for the truth, which is tragic.

    Apart from feeling really sad, it sickens me too, but I know God sees everything, and He isn't mocked - what people sow, they will reap. The other sad fact is that vegeance doesn't belong to us - it belongs to God, yet James White took it upon himself to take revenge on Gail Riplinger. School yard bully tactics and belittling people.

    Here are some questions for James White and other KJV mockers:

    1. What Bible version do you mostly use and why?]
    2. If there is no perfect translation of the Bible, how do you know? Was
    it a revelation you received from the Holy Ghost, who so happens to be
    the Author of Scripture, or did you get it from another man?
    3. If no translation is perfect, what then is perfect Christianity?
    4. If God took care of 98% in the best (Bible) translation, why did He
    leave out only 2%?
    5. Was the Author of the Scripture (the Holy Ghost) not really interested in
    preserving the Scriptures in pure English?
    6. Can Christians absolutely (100%) trust what any scholar (man) say?
    7. When scholars translate from the "original", are their translations also
    perfect?
    8. Which Bible version would you say can one hold to their heart and be
    sure it is 100% the true Bible? If you say none, is your answer 100%
    correct?
    9. What Bible version would you give a baby in Christ, with the recommendation
    that he would NEVER need another one?
    10. Why do scholars NEVER suspect the devil's interference in corrupting the
    modern versions?
    11. How does one explain to a baby Christian that the most successful period of
    Church history was when the English Church used the Authorized Version?
    12. How does one account for the fact that there never was any TRUE revival
    with the "better" modern day versions?
    13. If God lost part of His inspired Word, why did He wait until the 20th century
    to attempt to recover it with the help of MAN?
    14. Since a baby Christian has no chance in any liberal church to stick to the
    standard Bible in English, which version do you recommend as the best
    for him/her and why?
    15. For example, if there are two types of Bibles, based on two "families" of
    manuscripts, was the devil in any way involved in attacking the Bible?
    16. Do you believe God lost the original on purpose, or was it an accident?
    17. Do you believe a Christian should always speak the truth in Christ Jesus,
    not lie, as stated in 1 Timothy 2:7 (KJV), or do you believe Satan attacked
    that particular verse, or do you think Paul never wrote it like that?
    18. Do you like the New World Translation? And if not, why?
    19. When the Revised Version came about, why wasn't it a perfect translation?
    20. When the NASB came about, why was it called the "New American Standard" without being read in any church? What was wrong with the old standard?
    21. Why does the Church need one new "re-translation" and/ or revision every
    6 months?
    22. Where in the Bible is any inference given that textual critics were
    appointed to do any work for the Lord?
    23. What was wrong with the word "study" in the Bible, in order for it to be removed from modern versions?
    24. Where does the Bible say anything good about textual critics (scribes)?
    25. When any textual critic translates from the 'original', is it right the first time,
    or only after another 99 critics have confirmed it?
    26. Why does the NIV call God Almighty TOLERANT in Romans 2:4?
    27. Can anyone explain why the NIV translators declare all translations of the
    Bible imperfect works?
    28. Why did the NKJV remove all the singular and plural pronouns from it's text?

    Gail Riplinger refutes James White:
    Parts 1 - 7:
    http://www.av1611.org/kjv/ripwhit1.html

    {Off topic - posters were clearly warned that NO Calvinism discussions would take place in this forum]
     
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    Sorry, but who is Gail Riplinger?

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    A fraud who blasphemes the word of God.
     
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    If you have not fished for men and discipled anyone then you have accepted a false Christ. The real issue is: Who's living for Christ because of your life?

    It would help if she preached Christ rather than KJVism. How many people has she personally discipled? I have never once heard anything about that matter. The KJV is a modern version compared to its predecessors. The KJV has been revised several times. Which version is correct?

    I easily remember the time when a young man I was talking with told me about some KJVO students who separated themselves from the rest of the students as thought they were poison. How many do you really think they reached? Their church regularly publishes KJVO materials that some of the BB have mentioned as being good. The one problem is that their church has grown very little in the last 30 years. It has not even kept up with the population growth percentage. If their faith was of God they would certainly reach people with the gospel.


    Which "one" did Paul and Jesus use? What Greek translation of the OT did Paul and Jesus quote from?

    Did anyone in the Bible ever address this issue? The fact is that there was the Hebrew OT and more than one Greek translation around at the time. Christ is the issue not something else.

    That issue is addressed in James and other places in the Bible.

    How many times has the KJV been revised? Was one translation not sufficient? Was God left out in the original translation of the KJV or the revisions?

    Pure English? English can be rather ambiguous at times. Sometime translate cómo está and cómo estás from Spanish to English in today's context and tell me which English translation is correct. Would you trust your translation of those words 100%?

    Paul addressed that issue in Phil 3:17, "Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us." In a study of the historical context of that day one would know that about 95% or more of the people could not read. Were they unable to walk with God because they could not read?

    God chose the perfect timing when Christ was on this earth. That was more than 16 centuries before the KJV began to be a thought. Our dating is not referenced to the KJV but rather Christ such as A.D. and B.C.

    Why has the KJV been revised several times? Which one is correct?

    In reference to 2 Tim. 2:15, there are not any Greek texts which use the word for study. Following Chirst is not just study. It is what that verse talks about--walking a straight path and not being ashamed. Remember that at best only 5% of the people Paul wrote to were capable of reading. Were the non-readers incapable of walking with God?
     
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    A KJV advocate in the U.S.
     
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    You pointed off. Were you there to meet Jesus and Paul? Goldie's question referred to TODAY.
     
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    Perhaps you missed the point that there was more than one Greek translation of the OT in Jesus' and Paul's day. The same thing applies today that applied then.
     
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    Please do not bear false witness against fellow believers.
    I would like you to document ONE instance of James White ever mocking the KJV.

    I have read his book on the KJV only controversy, I listened to his Dividing Line program regularly. I even chat with him online on his chat channel and not once have I EVER seen him MOCK the KJV.

    He most certianly has shown the errors of the KJVO position
    He has certainly shown places where the KJV could have been translated better*(as he has done with the NASB**) (2) but he has never mocked the KJV and for you to say so is to bear false witness against this man.

    Having no regard for the truth as I have seen with many KJVO proponents does not do well for their arguments.***




    * See White's recording called "How we got the Bible"

    ** In dealing with Romans 9, he points out that a particular verse is better translated, he believed in the NIV than in the NASB which he was reading from, though he does not mention which translation he is actually using.

    ***See this YouTube video for an example, though the Baptist Board has plenty of examples as well.
     
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    Thread closure

    As this has turned into a versions thread :BangHead: , I am closing it NOW.
     
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