In the thread on the necessity of faith for salvation some of the board members argued that general revelation was sufficient for someone to be saved. I argued that special revelation was necessary for salvation. My question for the board is this: If all one need do is respond to the light they are given then how is that salvation by grace? Ephesians 2:8,9 makes plain that salvation is by grace and it is not of ourself. If you do not have the gospel, but you desire to know God, is that not of yourself? It seems to me that those who argue that people who do not hear the gospel can be saved through desiring to know God based on the light they have, are really suggesting that in some way salvation is of yourself.