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Genisis 5 Question

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by sag38, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. sag38

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    I was out visiting a prospect this evening and he showed me something concerning the names of those mentioned in the genealogy as found in Genesis 5. I have no Hebrew training and no way of verifying this. The meaning of each name when put together makes a definitive statement if true.

    Adam = man
    Seth = appointed
    Enos = mortal
    Cainan = sorrow
    Mahalaleel = the blessed God
    Jared = come down
    Enoch = teaching
    Methuselah = despairing
    Noah = comfort or rest

    Any input from anyone would help.
    Thanks
     
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    1 out of 3 is NOT a good match. I see no reason to search further. What was said is WRONG and misleading at best. I won't mention at worse, cause I don't know the heart of whomever started the rumor.Source is e-sword, KJV+Strong's Numbers:

    H2585
    חנוך
    chănôk
    khan-oke'
    From H2596; initiated; Chanok, an antediluvian patriarch: - Enoch.



    H4968
    מתוּשׁלח
    methûshelach
    meth-oo-sheh'-lakh
    From H4962 and H7973; man of a dart; Methushelach, an antediluvian patriarch: - Methuselah.



    H5118
    נוח נוּח
    nûach nôach
    noo'-akh, no'-akh
    From H5117; quiet: - rest (-ed, -ing place).
     
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    I was told to make sure that I researched the root words. I'm not sure what that means but I forgot that he emphasized checking out the root words. By the way, thanks for responding.
     
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    All of the following defintions are from the Hebrew lexicon "Brown, Driver, Briggs, Gesenius Lexicon" with information from the "Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament" through the KJV version of Genesis 5 that uses Strongs Concordance numbers via the website Studylight.org.

    Adam = man, root = red
    Seth = compensation , root = to put, set
    Enos = man , origin = man, mortal, person, mankind, root = to be weak, sick, frail
    Cainan = possession , root = make a nest
    Mahalaleel = praise of God , root = to shine, to praise, boast, be boastful
    Jared = descent , root = to go down, descend, decline, march down, sink down
    Enoch = dedicated , root = to train, dedicate, inaugurate
    Methuselah = man of the dart , root = male, man
    Lamech = powerful , uncertain root
    Noah = rest , root = to rest


    A lot of the alleged meaning of the sequence comes from the meaning of Methuselah which does not appear to mean "His death shall bring". Cainan and Lamech also appear to be wrong. The others have a meaning or root meaning that appears to be close.
     
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    The hobglobin of logic: making the facts fit one's conclusion.
    (if you have a square peg to fit into a square hole - it will fit but there will be some splinters left ;) )

    The one I find the most interesting is this:
    In 1948 the modern Country of Israel was born. Both Daniel and John (in Revelation) mentions 1260 days (which I think is 3½-years) but could be the one day = one year principle could apply. If that is so, it would mean 1260 days.
    AD 1948 - 1260 years = AD 688. This was a year in the rise of Islam (followers of Mohammud). It was also one of the some 140 years that the Dome of the Rock (DoR) in Jerusalem was built. Nof when you raise a lots of money over a long period of time (the golden dome is gold sheet pressed over the dome structure - quite expensive) you do things to get rich people to donate. Personally I'd have a dedication every month or so. So surely they dedicated the DoR in AD 688. Anyway, that is how the idea was developed. However, it usually is said like this:

    http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

    (this page has a nice picture of the golden dome of the DoR and these words")


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    (here it is selling the 'mathematical precision of prophecy' -- Strangely, you won't find this prophetic interpertation until AFTER 1948! They say "Figures don't lie - but liars figure". This is a lying figure, not a proof of 'mathematical precision of prophecy'.

    Now if someone had said about AD 1200 that from the building unto the DoR until the an independant Israel was built would be 1260 days - that would be an interesting prophecy. But that didn't happen. Check all you want, the creation of the prophetic 'rumor' was created as 1948 minus 1260.

    Prophecies the other way round have Jesus returning in 1844 (adventist movement) or 1988 (Pastor lEdgar C. Whisenant of Arkansas) or whatever -- all DID NOT happen.
     
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