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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Salty, Mar 21, 2010.
Have your views on Glenn Beck changed after his views about the church and social justice?
No, my views of Glen Beck have not changed.
Those churches which place a top-heavy emphasis on social justice are overwhelmingly liberal, both politically and theologically.
I'm pretty red-neck conservative, so that will explain my view of Beck.
I don't listen to Glen Beck so I don't really have a view on him at all.
However, I do agree with him partially about the social justice issue. If that is the focus of the church, they have lost their first love. If they have kept their first love, Jesus Christ, then they will be socially active as a response to Him. It's like works - if a church pushes good works as their mission, all of their teaching, etc. then there is something wrong because they are forgetting the Gospel which will change people to do good works.
Al Mohler had a good blog about this last week: http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/03/15/glenn-beck-social-justice-and-the-limits-of-public-discourse/
I've seen the Beck show in it's entirety maybe three times.
However the above quote is the absolute truth, as I see it.
What the rest of his views on Christianity are, I have no idea. I didn't have time to research it. I won't use the OP source to do my checking, either.
Beck is a Mormon. Once in a while he will state he is a Mormon, but normally, he just uses terms such as "my faith".
Basically, Beck believes that the churches who push "social justice" demand that the government provide all "needs" - aka wants. Rather, Beck believes it is the church that should provide (true) needs for those who require legimient help.
I do agree with Ann, social justice should not be the main focus of a church. Rather, it would be a natural result of our faith.
Social Justice is terminology to indicate a communist agenda. We can love our neighbors without supporting the communist social justice agenda.
I agree. Socialist or communist Code talk.
Beck has a point: it isn't the place of churches to be political organs. However, this applies to those churches pushing via a not so subtle "wink, wink," a Republican agenda as well.
That being said, Beck is truly fearless and a great patriot. God bless him!!!
I was listening to Glen the day he said this... I was driving through town, and thought to myself... "Wow... Glen must becoming a Baptist"... HE was right on...
He went on to say that preaching the Gospel is the main purpose of the church, not social justice.
Only in the sense that I'm surprised that a Mormon got something right about our theology (kind of).
Well, sort of, Tim. Remember that whenever Beck talks about church (both Christian and Mormon churches) it's always that their purpose is to teach us to be better people, not to preach the Gospel.
His opinion of church is very moralistic and very works oriented, which is only natural, being a Mormon.
In this case, he's right that social justice isn't the main focus of the church, but he didn't quite get what is the main focus correct.
That having been said, I'm glad that he made an argument against social justice, even if he did get some of the details wrong. It gave me an opportunity to share the Gospel with several people.
What I find interesting is that so many are saying right now that Jesus was all about social justice. If He really was, why did He not make anyone rich? Why did He not heal ever single person who lived at the time? If His purpose here was social justice, He failed miserably.
==Glen Beck is a Mormon, not a Christian. Christians should not endorse him, we should witness the Gospel of Christ to him. As it stands at this moment, his soul is in danger of perishing in the lake of fire. This is true of many conservatives who reject Jesus Christ as their Lord.
Social justice, as it is used today, is a liberal (unBiblical) notion. Charity cannot be done by force and therefore cannot be done by the government. God loves a cheerful giver, not a forced giver.
How does his Mormonism make his political observations wrong?
Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are Baptist preachers (actually BPINO), and I certianly do not endorse them.
If I had the chance, I certianly would witness to Glenn, but it may be a bit hard to get thru his security. But prayer does change things.
==Did I say his political observations were wrong? No. Wha I said was that, as Christians, we should be witnessing to him and not defending him. The Gospel, and eternity, are far more important than temporary political issues.
Why can't a church do both? Being involved in social justice causes does not preclude a church from preaching the Gospel.
OK. So why shouldn't we defend him when he says something correct? (And, for the record, you said that we shouldn't endorse him, not that we shouldn't defend him.)
Then perhaps you should have read the OP before you responded.
Actually, it does, because a belief in "social justice" necessitates a misunderstanding of the Gospel and of the nature of man, as well as Biblical teaching about wealth.