Global Warming Consensus

Hey Jim,

You are correct. Roswell may be 20 miles north of the city-center of Atlanta. However, it is likely only five or six miles from northern edge of the Atlanta city limits. Roswell is an "up-scale" community. However, what the residents think about themselves and their suburb has no effect on geography or local weather patterns. When it snows in Atlanta it snows in Rowsell because they are in the same county.

 

Bible Boy, I just talked to wife about Roswell. Remember, my daughter rew up in Canada and her husband in Green Bay, Wisc.........we know what snow and cold are.........lol

Now, Jo says it was the only snow they had in two years at Roswell. She seems to think that weather patterns between Roswell and Atlanta proper do differ at times. For example, the tornado hit south Atlanta, but did not touch Roswell. It also went north of them. If I remember, it only hit the south end of Atlanta..that is where my granddaughter was with the horses when it hit. Barely had time to get the horses and themselves under cover.

Hard to answer when I don't have first-hand knowledge. Second-hand stories are open to.........wha?

Cheers,

Jim

 

Hey Jim,

Are we talking about a snow event which generally covers a wide area or a tornado which generally hits a specific area? The post I was responding to was the one in which you mentioned about a half-inch of snow falling in Roswell, GA and that it was the first time in something like 100 years. That can not be correct because it snowed several times while lived there from 1993 to 1998. I used to have to drive through Roswell to get to work and I drove through there with snow on the ground during those years. Now if you are talking about tornados and the hail storms generally associated with them that may well be a different story. But I assure you that it snowed in Roswell, GA when I lived in the area.

 

No, she said first snow in 2 years..the 100 years was what the news said about the tornado that hit south Atlanta and did the millions in damage.

Cheers,

Jim

 

How many scientists world-wide?
What portion is 650 scientists to the number world wide?

I suspect there are more than 65,000 world-wide scientists. l If only one percent of the world-side scientists think Global warming is NOT a problem, that isn't every much.


BTW it was 14-degrees-F this morning in Central Oklahoma. It snowed four hours straight (very light, actually all kinds of winter goop). I'm in the middle of the country by the river. North-West corner of the county was 18-degrees-F and it only did winter goop for 30-minutes.

By contrast, out by Bethlehem where the shepherd were keeping watch over their fields at night it got all the way down to 44-degrees-F last night (the first part of 16 Dec 2008). Did anybody notice that God gave every sheep a neat wool coat :godisgood:

I out grew my wool coat some 40 years ago.

 

So please show us where 64350 scientists buy into man made climate change.

 

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BEEN to Palestine for a month now. Winter has come for good. Temperature falls below zero during the night. During the day I visit my patients at their homes. The houses are very cold. Nothing that needs electricity is working. It is too expensive. People are rushing to switch on the heaters just for us. I feel embarrassed wrapped up in my fleece while people around me wear basic clothing. There was a small child today with bare feet walking on the cement ground. Her feet were almost blue from the cold…

I just copied this from the net.......I don't know..they seem to think it is cold.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Please give me the common courtesy of reading my statements. Trying to understand what I mean would really be cool.

I suspect there are more than 65,000 world-wide scientists.

thank you.

Suspect - what does that mean?

not: 'It is a hard fixed fact
not: 'God said it on Mt. Sinai'
goodness I can't find the number of scientists in the world, that number is hidden, obtuse, hard to get to. Feel free to show me your number UNDER 65,000 from your sources. You know if I find there are 650,000 world wide scientists that the 650 get smaller a portion - one tenth of one percent. Do you know if I find there are 6.5 Million world-wide sciences taht would be only one in ten thousand that sided a no global warning docuement? Or did you just drop out of 5th grade percentage arithemetic?

 

Yea I understood that. I thought you would understand that I was looking for you to show there are only a small fraction who oppose man made global climate change.

 

Take a gander at this picture of how 'hot' Dec07-nov08 was:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/a-cooler-year-on-a-warming-planet/?em


the whole graph also needs the discussion on that page with it.

 

I think this is one of those 6 of one or half dozen of another sort of things. The "facts" seem to change daily depending on who you are listening to.

Cheers,

Jim

 

That article has a quoate from the manager of the Hadly Center in England (from which the data & graphs come):

Dr. Stott said. “Without human influence on climate change we would be more than 50 times less likely of seeing a year as warm as 2008.”
Yet 2008 is the coolest year of this Third Millennium (2001-3000) so far :wavey:
2008 is the coolest year of this 21st Century (2001-2100) so far.

Ain't Global Warming fun
I wish I'd studied harder in my Statistics course in University. I only made a 'C' in PAUL (The life and writings of Paul) also.

 

You know, I never saw snow in London during my growing up years. Then, my sister reminds me that they stuffed snow down my clothing to make cry so mum would fetch me indoors and set them free.

So, how well does memory really serve in history? Perhaps some of these scientists have the same kind of memory.

By the way, we had smogs so bad in London that we often had dinner at the neighbours cos we couldn't find our way home. When England banned burning coal, they hardly see a smog over London town.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Sir Elder Brother Jim1999: the facts are on that map of the world. The facts will vary by Who reads those facts of them and how they read it will vary from person to person. Those facts from 2008 (actually Dec2007-Nov 2008) won't be different ever (and were not available until a few days ago). The ability to predict the facts from 2009 or later are also variables.

Here is Ed's opinion to consider:

If the Lord tarries, the people who deny Global Warming will NOT get to participate in the decisions of who in the world gets what. If the Lord comes, the ones left who deny Global Warming will get NOTHING, they will be persecuted & slain (do NOT take the mark of the Beast)

-Ed Edwards - outta here at the FIRST sound of the LAST trumpet

 

That is quite weird and very phelpesque

 

I have no idea what Ed is trying to say.

At first, I thought he meant that if we denied manmade global warming, we wouldn't be part of the Rapture.

Then, I thought it meant that manmade global warming was the anti-christ system.

Finally, I gave up. Who knows?

 

Hello Ed,

I think you are having a hard time following the information that has been presented regarding the 650 scientists thing. The point was/is that Al Gore and a bunch of UN Yahoos (52 total) tried to make the claim that there is universal consensus among the entire scientific community that Global Warming is real and that it is man-made. There is no such consensus on either point. So please stopping trying to make the 650 number have to mean that they are a majority or something. No one made such a claim and it is not the point of the evidence these 650 scientists provided to the US Congress.

 

I guess I am in great jeopardy then. I do know that the most accurate weatherman is me. I step out teh front door and my nose knows if it is raining or snowing, wind blowing, hot or cold.............Why, I have heard the weatherman on the radio talking about the sunshine and I am soaking wet!

Cheers,

Jim

 

Jim,

SOme of these scientists will tell you...and I'm not making this up...

"You're right, it's colder than it has been in years! You know why? Global warming?"

How do you argue with such "logic?"

 

Here's mine to consider:

The reward will be greater for those who follow God's word than it will be for those who follow Ed's word. Global warming was not addressed at the cross. My rejection of Earth-firster doctrine can only have positive effects on my relationship with the father. Those christians who deny man-made global warming can still be good stewards of the planet, despite Ed's scriptural & moral add-libbing.