Gluttony, America's Favorite Sin

One does not have to be obese, or even over weight for diabettes, high cholesterol or even heart disease. Other wise you'd never see a skinny person with these diseases.

 

I agree that gluttony in todays churches is the main "non-sin sin" (well, that and "prayer request gossip"). We have no problem condemining alcohol use that doesn't lead to drunkeness (drunkeness in nothing more than gluttony, btw) while rubbing our stomachs at a "fellowship dinner" stating "man, I shouldn't have had that last piece of pie...I'm stuffed!"

 

very true. Genetics play a bigger role than we give credit to. Type 2 diabetes, however, is often times (if not mostly) associated with obesity.

 

Ouch!

I should have read this post(or it is thread?)first because I just devoured a couple of cookies. If I had read this thread( or should I have typed post?) first I would have felt the desire to eat those delicious fresh strawberries in the refrigerator which are so tempting and healthier than any old cookie.
All of you posters have made some very good points. Thanks!

 

All those fit and trim type 2's I know would disagree with you.

 

we usually think of gluttony as being only food, but it is much more. Some people who do not eat a lot of food, are still gluttons in otherarea, and threads like this tend to over look the other side of gluttony, giving approval to it.

 

The "fit and trim type 2's" are the minority and not the norm.

 

Hey, you can hear Americans talk about fat Americans...... You don't have to go to Europe. What about fat Germans, Fat Polish, etc

 

Not really, I know a lot of diabetics, and most are skinny , some extremely so. Only 1 or 2 are over weight at all.

 

Type 2 diabetes may be caused by weight in some people, not all people. Other wise skinny people wouldn't get it at all. It is also hereditary.

 

Those who were overweight had a 60 percent increased risk of diabetes, an 80 percent increased risk of high blood pressure, and a 50 percent higher likelihood of elevated cholesterol levels. For those with moderate obesity, the risk of diabetes or high blood pressure was increased more than three fold, and the likelihood of a high blood cholesterol level or arthritis doubled. For those with severe obesity, everything was much worse with six to seven fold risk of diabetes or high blood pressure, and a four fold increased risk of arthritis.

http://healthfullife.umdnj.edu/archives/obd_archive.htm

 

They are not rare, lol, I'm sure they'd laugh at that, because I know more skinny diabetis then over weight ones, and I know a lot of diabetics.

 

Yes, there are far too many obese people in European countries as well - for men, figures seem to vary between 6.5% of the population in Italy, to 19% in Finland. For women, it is between 6.3% in Italy and 27.9% in Russia. In the USA, it is 27.5% of men, and 33.4% of women. I don't know how accurate those figures are. They come from http://www.bariatric-surgery.info/obesity-levels-worldwide.htm and http://www.bariatric-surgery.info/obesity-levels-usa.htm



As for the question of the link between weight and Type 2 diabetes, the World Health Organisation at http://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/publications/facts/obesity/en/ says (emphasis mine):

The likelihood of developing Type 2 diabetes and hypertension rises steeply with increasing body fatness. Confined to older adults for most of the 20th century, this disease now affects obese children even before puberty. Approximately 85% of people with diabetes are type 2, and of these, 90% are obese or overweight.


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My husband is as skinny as a beanpole and he has Type II diabetes. He has a family history of Adult Onset Diabetes.

I am just a tad overweight, but not obese, and I am pre-diabetic. I also have a family history of Adult Onset Diabetes.

I am controlling it with diet (so far) so I don't go into full Diabetes. I have changed my eating habits...mainly eliminating all sugar from my diet.

My mother, two brothers, and a sister developed Type II diabetes later in life and only one of them could be considered obese.

Heredity plays a HUGE part in this type of Diabetes.

 

I don't pretend to be medically qualified. However, when I find that such bodies as the World Health Organisation, the British Medical Association, The American Diabetes Association ("Most people who get type 2 diabetes are overweight, and losing weight is often the first step in controlling type 2 diabetes. ") and the British Diabetic Association all say that being overweight/obese greatly increases the likelihood of getting Type 2 Diabetes, I think I ought to take notice. They are not saying it is the only cause, of course. But if close reatives have diabetes AND you are obese, there is a greater likelihood that you too will get Type 2 diabetes than if only the heriditary factor was present.

 

I want to say that I am sorry for being to light...

about a very serious subject. My 81 year old mother is diabetic and reading the posters here, I could be a candidate too. I am sorry that I spoke lightly of a subject that God calls a sin namely gluttony. May we pray for each one here who
has diabetes.