http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081202/AUTO01/812020426/1148/AUTO01 I don't think they swung at the nail. They want to layoff 30K and close 9 plants. Notice, nothing about executive pay in this proposal (except the CEO). I concede you guys appear to have been right. Perhaps we should just let them fail. The purpose of the Gov help was to save jobs. Also keep in mind, they pay the laid off workers 90% of their salary. Why bother.