Gnosticism 2

Got it Bro. Ziggy. Now documented on
this page:
http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/4/1411/10.html?

Praise Iesus!

 

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Proof please. And we need more than "I believe it" or "Everyone knows it." Either post hard evidence (chapter and verse, reputable source-not a KJVO idiot), or shut up about it. Unsubstantiated accusations are nothing, Michelle.

If you can't back it up, get lost.
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Where is your fear of the Lord? Where?


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

More like liberalism!!!

 

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Ed! Another double! It's ok to appeal to doctorate-holding scholars (of any stripe) when they *support* positions held within the KJVO camp, but doctorate-holding scholars who *oppose* positions held within the KJVO camp are guilty of "scholarolotry" and cannot be trusted (or much stronger terms of abuse).
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And I hope that you are all keeping track of your own double standards. The mver's have plenty of them.

What Askjo proved isn't a double standard. He is showing you that people on your own side have acknowledged the gnostic influence on the Alexandrian manuscripts. I highly doubt, that Askjo listens to or believes what that man believes. He also has never put down scholarship, not that I have seen.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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I am beginning to smell hypocracy on these boards.

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More like liberalism!!!
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Hey. Finally someone on the mv side can finally see, and admit to the liberalism of their view. I congratulate your keen observation, and your humbleness to admit such. Thank you.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

Yes...But most <attack deleted> cant see it!!!

[ September 12, 2004, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]

 

The evidence of the kind of tree is the eventual fruit it bears.

As pious as the KJVO doctrine seems on the surface, it seems also to always produce strife and divsion.

Galatians 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, ...
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

HankD

 

Amen, Hank!

 

I, nor any of the other anti-KJVOs here, are trying to prove that a false, man-made lie is the truth; you are. Thus, the burden of proof falls on you and your ilk, Michelle...not me, and not any other who stands against your false teachings.

True, it is. But I think that I speak for many here.

King James Version Onlyism is a lie created by a high-ranking member of a known cult (ultimately, it was begun by the adversary back in Genesis 3...KJVOism is but a ripple of it). <personal accusation snipped>

In Christ,
Trotter

[ September 12, 2004, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: C4K ]

 

No one here is denying the accuracy of scripture, or questioning its inspiration.

That would be the correct definition for liberalism, although most pseudo-fundamentalists I know define it as anyone with lower standards than me.

Please refrain from name calling and attempt to back up your extra-biblical beliefs with something.

The position held by almost everyone who has posted a position other than KJVO on this board is consistent with the correct views regarding inspiration, as well as the traditional view of preservation that has been blessed by God for centuries.

 

No, it was not an attack on you, Michelle. Trust me, you would know the difference.

I do not speak for the moderators.

In Christ,
Trotter

 

Askjo said "W/H's <see post above> Greek text came from the Gnostics of Egypt."

First, it is not "see post above" Second, some of the manuscripts considered were Egyptian, but you will be completely unable to prove Gnostics produced them.

 

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Please refrain from name calling and attempt to back up your extra-biblical beliefs with something.
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First of all the name calling has been done by many of you toward us, and falsely so I might add, and with absolutely no proof for it, remorse for it, nor apology.

Second, your beliefs of all-versionsism is never supported with scriptural truth, and in fact cannot be found anywhere in the scripture. You have no scriptural support that indicates God allows alterations to His word of truth, nor that the scriptures are not infallible or inerrant. In fact, you all have falsely labeled us KJVO and falsely accusing us of believing in false doctrine, and have no scriptural support that supports your false accusations of/against us. In fact it is us who believe the scriptures we have and our beliefs are supported by them. Hint: this is where we get our beliefs from - the scriptures. You all claim we are believing some man made false doctrine. This is a lie that you are believing, and because of this, you have all falsely accused your fellow bretheren, and sisters in Christ. Someday you will have to give an account for it. Some day you will also have to give an account for saying the scriptures have errors in them, and then defending those alterations, when it has been shown to you by many, and repeatedly, they in fact have been altered. You are condoning it, and leading who knows how many countless others to believe the scriptures have alterations, which ultimatately will sow doubt and unfaithfulness to many.

You just might want to take your own advice in the above quote.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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First, it is not "see post above" Second, some of the manuscripts considered were Egyptian, but you will be completely unable to prove Gnostics produced them.
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You are right. Those who are stubborn and stiff-necked rarely can see the proof when given to them. In fact, the proof provided is always denied and scoffed at by those who are stubborn. They won't budge, like the stubborn mule. You might want to read the preface of the KJB 1611. They talk about this, to which I did point out to you a while ago, to which you ignored.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

yadda yadda yadda. Ad hominem ad nauseam.

Michelle said "You might want to read the preface of the KJB 1611."

Hello, I've already told you multiple times that I've read it multiple times. The only time they talk about Egyptian texts, is when they are talking about the Septuagint which they call "the word of God" despite its imperfections.

 

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Hello, I've already told you multiple times that I've read it multiple times. The only time they talk about Egyptian texts, is when they are talking about the Septuagint which they call "the word of God" despite its imperfections.
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And you are only referencing the FIRST part of that. They continue to talk about it, further on, and that is what I pointed out to you, to which you have apparently ignored.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

No, I'm pretty sure I responded to it. If you think I am mistaken, please repost what you want me to respond to and I will be happy to do so.

 

More like liberalism!!! </font>[/QUOTE]Please prove this, AV Defender. I don't see liberalism on this forum. I do see people who are unable to back up their claims of kjVERSION ONLYISM who get frustrated and start with ad hominem attacks, continuing to post using circular reasoning, but no hard facts. Please, show where you find liberalism.

AVL1984