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Go Ron Paul!!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by kyredneck, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    RP supporters, wasn't it God who set government regulations on marriage and adultery? How is this a church alone issue when it began in the OT and regulations instilled with Israel?
     
  2. Havensdad

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    WD,

    I understand your position, but if you want to be consistent, then you cannot support freedom of religion either. Worshiping of other gods is a stone-able offense in the OT. So is breaking the Sabbath...do you think we should arrest people for working on Saturday or Sunday (depending on your view).

    Personally, I make a distinction here. Israel was a theocracy, being led by God to establish a political state. It was ruled by priests, commissioned directly by God. We are not. We are individuals called to preach the Gospel, and capture hearts and minds with the cross of Christ. This works best in a nation of freedom.

    If you want to eliminate the constitution, and instead set up a Biblical state, I would be o.k. with that. But I don't want secular leaders in charge of marriage.
     
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    Touche! :) it was a sincere question, btw.
     
  4. billwald

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    >Second, for you to claim there could be no true Christians in congress is silly.

    Anyone can run for Congress. No one can get re-elected without selling out. His own party will dump him.
     
  5. Havensdad

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    That is simply not true. Ron Paul is unbelievably consistent, and he gets re-elected...
     
  6. Salty

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    or is it becasue he keeps bringing the bacon home?
     
  7. Havensdad

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    Not at all. Paul serves his district, but he does not do it in a pandering way like most others. Paul gets re-elected because he does exactly what he says he will do, every single time...even if it is unpopular and causes him to lose votes.
     
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    He gets elected in his district, but he will never be elected president.
     
  9. Havensdad

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    If not, it is only because the people across the country believed the media brainwashing (the continual mantra, "he can't win..he can't win...). Ron Paul in national polling, is statistically tied in a run-off against Barak Obama. He is in the top tier in the opening primary states. He polls extremely well among independents (the votes the republicans need to garner), for his anti-war stance. In fact, anti-war democrats in many cases have said they would vote FOR Paul, AGAINST Obama..

    Paul's biggest obstacle is not the general election; it is getting past the primaries. Many war-loving Republicans don't particularly like him...however, in a match up against the most hated president of all time? Forget about it...Paul would clobber him.
     
  10. kyredneck

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    Another excellent post HD.

    I found this short clip to be very entertaining and very true concerning the media's blatant consistent ignoring of him:

    Indecision 2012 - Corn Polled Edition - Ron Paul & the Top Tier

    Concerning last night's debate:

    Who Won The CNN Republican Debate? Why Ron Paul Was One Of The Three Debate Winners -media training

    The comment was made:

    “The only problem is that his message connects most with liberals and independents than it does with the Republican base.
    More outings like this and Paul will be perfectly positioned for a 3rd party run in the general election.”

    Paul has consistently said that he will not run as a third party, and I fully expect him to hold true to his word:

    Texas Rep. Ron Paul again dismissed speculation that he may run for president as a third-party candidate, saying Sunday he simply doesn’t want to.

    "“I don’t want to do it. That’s a pretty good reason,” the GOP candidate said on Fox News Sunday"

    I suspect he has no intention of throwing the election to the Dems as occurred with Perot in 92. That's the sort of integrity that is consistent with Ron Paul.

    The Obama team would love nothing better than for him to run as an independent.

    [edit] From the above article:

    "..... Paul said he would be unlikely to support anyone else for the Republican nomination unless they agreed with him on certain issues.

    If they believe in expanding the wars, if they don’t believe in looking at the Federal Reserve, if they don’t believe in real cuts, if they don’t believe in deregulation and a better tax system, it would defy everything I believe in,” Paul said. “I would be reluctant to jump on board and tell all of the supporters that have given me trust and money then all of a sudden say, ‘All we have done is for naught and let’s support anybody at all because even if they disagree with everything we do.’”

    “Does that mean you might consider an independent run?” Wallace asked.

    “No, it doesn’t mean that at all,” Paul said. “I have no intention of doing that. It doesn’t make any sense to me to even think about that, let alone plan to do that.”

    “Because?” Wallace pressed.

    “Because I don’t want to do it,” Paul said laughing. “That’s a pretty good reason.”
     
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  11. Salty

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    I object to the term "war - loving Republicans" I am not a Republican as I am a registered Conservative, (we often cross endorse the "R's" but I am certainly no "war loving conservative!

    I am a freedom loving conservative - and if that means going to war - then so be it. In the military we sweat in peace so we do not bleed in war. A good solider hates war, but we are prepared to defend freedom.

    Sarge Salty

    PS Heveansdad - just curious, which branch did you serve in?
     
  12. kyredneck

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    OK, so, which one of the war mongering GOP candidates do you like? It seems to me Ron Paul is the ONLY LONE VOICE in the whole pack who wants to take us away from MORE WAR.

    Which one do you support?
     
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    I do not support Ron for President. But to suggest he supports Gay marriage is to misrepresent his position. As a libertarian he does not want government to be involved in these positions. That is far different than supporting it. Your accusation is not very honest.
     
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    Doesnt make any difference as I can not vote in the Republician Primiary in NY


    I think there may be at least one and possibly two more


    I support defending our freedom
     
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    Talk about slander
     
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    Is there another, besides Paul, even discussing ending these wars ?
     
  17. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
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    Who are they?

    What country is posing a serious threat to our freedom?

    I could have tempered my words so as to try to not to offend one with such tender feelings as you have.

    I'll ask you the same question, other than Ron Paul, which of the Republican candidates are not pro-war?
     
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    What the world needs is more people with tender feelings much like Christ had.

    Define Pro-war
     
  19. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
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    Look at the stances of the GOP candidates, other than Ron Paul, that's pro war. We haven't even begun to pay for these past two wars that were put on the credit card for our grandchildren and their grandchildren to pay for, and these candidates are ready and willing to add even more to their debt, and the sickening thing about that is that they believe this is what's needed to get them elected. That's pro war.
     
  20. mandym

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    That is not an answer that assists me with answering your question. (Although it appears at this point it was more rhetorical than a real question. I was making an attempt to give a reasoned response but I need a real definition from you other than saying "what they do".
     
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