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Go Ron Paul!!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by kyredneck, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    Bill all that about yourself is very nice and thank you for serving this nation, but the problem is you miss-represented the truth about Ron Paul by saying he is against the military when he is not. Also your claim he wants drugs legalized is not true. He wants the US government out of the states business and let each state deciding returning the rights of the people to choose for themselves how to conduct their own lives as long as they are not harming anyone else. So let me ask this. Did you miss-understand Ron Paul’s stance on those things or did you knowingly miss-represent the truth??
    By the way here are some links if you want to listen to his stance;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpgWAAmVwDM
    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/national-defense/
     
  2. th1bill

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    And I would ask that you calm down and review the latest debate and then follow his statement to itś logical conclusion about troops overseas.
     
  3. th1bill

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    Iḿ not at all sorry but you need to follow his career as a politician back to the sixties and then pay close attention to the softened remark during the latest debate.

    I have not lied but I do remember that a Leopard does not change his spots. He might cover them with mud but they are there.
     
  4. th1bill

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    That is not real world.
     
  5. freeatlast

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    Bill I am not suggesting that I think his policies would work in the world we have today. I am however concerned about the facts and everything I find about him totally contradicts what you said. Now if you have evidence even back some 20 or 30 years ago to the contrary it would be good to know about.
     
  6. Ruiz

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    I think it is the real world. Yet, that is the debate, isn't it?

    I will agree with others who calls you out on some of your statements. I have spent several years reading and listening to Ron Paul. He seems much more consistent than you give him credit for. As well, no other candidate has the record of consistency that Paul exemplifies.
     
  7. matt wade

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    Provide the proof that he has a "no defense, for any reason, stance". Don't send me off to go get your proof. Post it right here, in the same forum that you made the accusation.
     
  8. th1bill

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    Ruiz,
    Iĺl agree about Ron Paul´s consistency, the problem is exactly that. He began by aligning himself with the most anti American people possible unless you count lawlessness as pro American... I do not. You will notice, Iḿ sure, that there is no attempt to provide information to debunk my statement. That, in and of itself is a glaring warning light to any thinking human being. If I have lied it will be simple to prove that I have, with the information highway. Instead, I´m called out by an admitted Kentucky Red Neck and piled on by his cronies?

    I, for reference, was not sent to war, I volunteered all three times. I do stand flat-footed on the Word of God and I have paid attention to the threats to my country for the past 49 years and Ron Paul does not stand for anything good, period.

    When a person is considered to lead this country the rhetoric must be laid aside and the facts examined. The lack, there-of is the reason we have an illegal alien in the Oval Office right now. If I take the bait for this rabbit chase through the briers it will not matter one wit the evidence, so long as the natives have not found it themselves.

    I have given my heart felt reasons for striking Ron Paul and yet none seek to disprove it. Are there no men present?
     
  9. th1bill

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    And as long as you have nothing to say you will be ignored.
     
  10. matt wade

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    You can ignore me all you want, but it is very telling that you refuse to provide proof for your claim. It's real simple to do so, yet you refuse to do so. Why is that?

    I'll ask once again, please provide proof that Ron Paul has a "no defense, for any reason, stance".

    You haven't provided one single shred of evidence for any of the claims you've made against Ron Paul. Why is that? I don't care about your military career. That doesn't automatically make anything you say 100% truth. If you want to make accusations against someone, be prepared to back them up. If you are unable to back them up, then retract them. If you refuse to do either then you are nothing but a slanderer.
     
  11. matt wade

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    The burden of proof is on you. You made the accusations. It isn't up to me or any other to go off an do research to figure out whether your claims are truthful. It's up to you as the accuser to provide factual evidence. There are men present here. Accusers that refuse to provide evidence are not among them. They are simply little boys running to momma and tattle telling about things that they made up.
     
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    Until you stop crying and do something you are on ignore. I, at the present have no burden but apparently you do.
     
  13. matt wade

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    I thought I was on ignore last time?

    You asked where the men are, yet you continue to act like a little boy? You get asked for proof for your accusations and all you do is stick your fingers in your ears and ignore me? You are a silly little boy th1bill.
     
  14. Robert Snow

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    I think the1bill is Bro. Curtis' dad. They both have hair triggers on their ignore lists. I guess it's easier to ignore than it is to face the truth.
     
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    Really? What 9-11 shows is that you cannot stop every act of violence. Our troops overseas do not do ANYTHING to stop attacks here. The number of attempted attacks on U.S. soil has actually went up, DRAMATICALLY, since we started all of our military actions after 9/11. HUNDREDS of attacks, right here, have been thwarted. All that having our troops overseas does, is put them in even more danger, and cost them their lives unnecessarily.

    This is why Ron Paul enjoys massive support among military personnel. He has received more donations from active duty military, than ALL of the other republican candidates combined. More than Obama too. These are not just grunts, they are officers and generals...folks that I think know as much or more about military strategy as yourself. And for some reason, they think Ron Paul has the right idea. If you go to a Ron Paul rally, or to a local election office, you would be absolutely overwhelmed at the enormous military veteran presence. According to those who know best (rather than stuffed shirt politicians reiterating talking points), Ron Paul has the right strategy.
     
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    Robert Snow is on my ignore list for childish, taunting, insulting Private Messages. I don't know why he keeps taunting me. I don't bring up his foolishness on threads he ain't involved in.
     
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    Just curious, I wonder what the breakdown of $ contributions are by Junior Enlisted, NCO's, and Officers would be?
     
  18. Robert Snow

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    Yep, you even look a little like the1bill! :laugh:
     
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    Robert, please. Leave me alone. Stop dragging me into threads. I don't do it to you.
     
  20. NiteShift

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    Hundreds of small ineffective attacks. Most people were expecting more large scale attacks along the lines of WTC. It didn't happen. AQ decided to make Iraq ..."what is now the place for the greatest battle of Islam in this era…As for the battles that are going on in the far-flung regions of the Islamic world, such as Chechnya, Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Bosnia, they are just the groundwork and the vanguard for the major battles which have begun in the heart of the Islamic world."

    AQ lost badly in Iraq and enjoys very little support in the Muslim world today.

    Well the troops swim in the same water as the rest of us. They reflect the values of society in general. Notice how polls showed that most of them were in favor of dropping DADT, something they would never have favored back when I was in. Probably a large number of them support R. Paul. I have been out of the army for years and couldn't speak for them, and I don't know if you've ever been in the service.
     
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