God, animals, and you

I think that a mistreated animal is indicitive of a troubled mind. However I believe that there are animals that are unclean and bring in pestilence and sickness. Thus are subject to be trapped and even killed. Even so these same animals, rats, are great for lab research. Basically I believe that animal use and care fall under stewardship of God's creation. Everything is here for a purpose and we must use it wisely. :thumbsup:

 

Of course I have opinions about each of them, I do hate animal cruilty, like abusing a pet, or purposely abusing any animal for the enjoyment of it's suffering. But for me to call these things listed sin I'd need scripture first, even though I find most of them distasteful.

 

Pro 12:10 A righteous [man] regards the life of his animal, But the tender mercies of the wicked [are] cruel.


Exd 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.


2Sa 12:3 But the poor man had nothing, except one little ewe lamb which he had bought and nourished; and it grew up together with him and with his children. It ate of his own food and drank from his own cup and lay in his bosom; and it was like a daughter to him.


I think there's also a verse about not beating your animals, but I may be mistaken. I couldn't find it.

 

Thank you.
I recall many times over and over about the vicious slaughter of animals, and sometimes many many animals in one day.

 

Thank you Amy. We are accountable in treating God's creatures in a humane manner.

A common denominator with regards to serial killers is they often started out torturing animals.

 

11 of you think that being cruel to an animal is a sin against God.

Are all 11 of you vegetarians?

 

I am not a vegetarian. I eat fish and eggs. Fish diet is mostly salmon and tuna. Eat a little meat sometimes, but it's rare.
Our eggs come from a neighbor down the street. Her chickens are free roaming chickens. Tasty brown, tan and green eggs

 

So Joe are you one of the 11 who thinks that being cruel to animals is a sin against God?

I would assume that killing an animal for food would impress the animal as being cruel if it could voice its opinion.

I guess we need to define cruel here.

 

:laugh: This is hilarious :thumbs:


Um...yes

 

Joe, do you apologize to all the live fish you see for eating their brother? :laugh:

 

No. Bumble Bee notifies the next of kin and we hold a fishy funeral

 

That was a very sad story. The animal was mistreated yet cared so much for it's owner that it saved it's life. That's how smart he was. I believe that stories partial purpose is to consider or weigh the cognitive ability of the animal to humans in deciding which animals to consume. Except obviously most animals cannot articulate like Balamm but some can. Like the Gorilla (sign language), and possibly others we are unaware of.

Today while I was working a lizard kept getting in my way. Then another much larger aligator lizard was running back and fourth in front of me. Finally I realized they were mates, and probably had a nest nearby. I had to finish my work outside but decided to leave for a while then come back.

The female lizard had guts, she was still there within a few feet of me. Then ran out in front of me again, back and fourth as to guard something behind her. I got really close to her and she didn't move. Just watched me while guarding her nest. Or that is my guess, they usually run away.

In watching her, she seems to obtain a much higher cognitive ability that I would expect from an aligator lizard. I gave her a snack, and she ate it. I think she liked me.

Funny, that if our pets were slaughtered and tortured in the manner most cattle/chickens are, it would horrify us. Because we KNOW our pet, we have bonded to our pet. We know our pet posesses high cognitive abilities. The dog/cat comes when we call, they loves us back, etc..Yet a pig is smarter than a dog. So a pig's plight is equally valid, yet we do not know a pig unless it is our pet. So we fool ourselves into thinking eating our greesy bacon is not sin. The Lord obviously did not intend us to drug the animal until it's so fat it's poor little legs can't hold it's body up. He didn't intend for us to slaugher our pigs in such a slow manner that it suffers along the way. He didn't intend for us to pack pigs in tiny quarters which cause them to freak out.


So we eat bacon which makes us fat, drug ourselves, clogg our arteries with total disregard for the manner the poor pig was probably slaughtered. In the OT, the pig was not to be eaten, it was an unclean animal. Not to mention we aren't to use drugs except for medicinal uses, yet everytime we eat a hamburger, we are doing drugs. Unless we know who killed the animal, or pay for organic meat. At least it's making a good faith effort.

But with all this, we are all sinners, and I am no different.

 

Joe,

So it's allright to eat a free ranging pig?

How about wild game?

 

If it's killed humanely (quickly), free-roaming pig should be alright. Could be a sin though.

Imo, it's best to avoid consuming the smarter animals

Wild game is as perfect as it gets. It's healthier and tastes better

One cow produces alot of meat compared to one chicken so it's better to eat Cattle.
Less animals are tortured this way

In the beginning, we were vegetarians. Only after the fall did God allow animal consumption.

His perfect plan in the beginning didn't involve consuming or torturing our furry friends.

Just a thought...


Are you a vegetarian?

 

No I'm not a vegetarian. I am a hunter - not a trophy hunter but a meat hunter.

I don't have any problem with the smart animals - the only ones I can harvest are the dumb ones. :laugh:

 

I would vote for:

...were it an option.