God changes his mind often?

This is your answer? Its a non answer web. Have a happy Thanksgiving brother.

 

It was a joke, friend.

The Gift is God's Son, and salvation being made through Him.

You have a good thanksgiving, too. Don't eat too much of that good southern food

 

Amen brother.......... to the good southern food too! :thumbs:

 

Yeah, that's the ticket! We are full of ourselves for receiving unmerited grace and mercy. Meanwhile, you believe that your salvation hinged on you making the right decision, whereas the poor saps who aren't smart or good enough to make that same glorious decision are consigned to hell forever. Gee, I'm glad that you made the right decision. Now, if we were going to call a side "full of themselves" (which, by the way, I don't should be done at all in this debate), who do you think would be more deserving of such biting criticism?

 

To quote the great theologian npetrely:

 

Webdog,

I was fighting rhetoric with rhetoric. If you note in my post, I don't think any of us should be calling the other side "full of themselves" or "arrogant" or whatever. I used the rhetoric to show how such attacks can easily be turned against the one using them.

Carry on.

 

LOL! Thanks. I'm tired of making the same point. Nice to see someone else do it.

Which part of unmerited does the free-willer side have trouble understanding?

 

When is someone going to tell the non free willer that grace is not the same thing as salvation?

 

Was that supposed to make sense? :laugh: I don't think I'm special because I made the right decision. I think that by God's grace my eyes were opened to the truth, and I believed in Christ, repented of my sins, and became a new creation in Christ. There is nothing that makes me special in that. It makes God special because of what He did for me and everyone else on the planet. It makes me sad for those who hear the truth and reject Him. I don't consider myself to be specially chosen for anything, which is exactly what it seems like the "elect" theory is...people believing that they were specially chosen. It's not a personal attack, although I probably should have worded that post a little better. I'm not saying that you personally think you're special, just that that seems to be the idea behind that theory.

 

"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, he that COMETH to God must believe that He is and that He is the REWARDER of those who diligently seek Him." Heb 11:6

Personally, I don't see how either of you came to God with those attitudes.

Maybe you got the words of that old hymn mixed up. It's "Just AS I am, without one plea... I come, I come." ----- Not "Just CAUSE I am, without one plea... You draw, You draw." :tear:

skypair

 

:laugh: :applause: That's right, Tim...and why is that? I believe the sig a member on another board uses says it all...

"There are only two things you need to know about God:
1. He exists.
2. You are not Him. "

Therefore, if you try to think like Him, you will get a head ache because you can't think like somebody you're not, and you're not God! :laugh:

 

Absolutely. I would only make one change. We only know about God to the extent He has chosen to reveal himself in the Bible. Any extensions of that you see here are philosophy not Christianity.