Some here believe that one can hear the gospel and believe, but then nothing else, they teach no one can obey in any way. They teach that nothing of God’s word can be understood until after the person is saved. However, how they think a person can believe enough to be saved is something their strange doctrine does not explain. Then there are those who say no one can believe or obey anything until God saves them. Both those beliefs are false. Those are the beliefs are of the Lutherans, Calvinists, and other reformed groups. All those groups teach falseness. The Bible says our faith comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:14. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11. God knows whom He will save before the creation of the world. The Bible says God chooses whom He saves. The Bible even tells us why God chooses whom He saves. I would like to hear from others here why they believe God chooses whom He saves. I will also wait to give my beliefs on this after hearing other’s beliefs.