God created adam and eve not adam and steve!

Please never use that cliche again, thanks.

 

Can we see about getting a spell checker added to the other BaptistBoard perks?

 

Yes, 4-christ, sodomy is an abomination & it is sickening to God to see His people remain silent. Thank you for taking a public stand on the truth.

 

Anytime!

 

Now that we know there are worse sinners than us and that we would never act on any homosexual fantasy that may occasionally pop into our thought process, we can move on to bashing some other group of sinners. Any suggestions besides the Gays and Abortion advocates?

Wait, have we covered gay Muslims yet? Gee, how damned are they?

 

The reason no one here has brought up the sins of gay muslims is that there is no chance that any of us could become one.

How's that for a scary motive for gay bashing?

 

Since coming to this board, I have seen an unusual preoccupation on gay issues.

If you are having a hard time with homosexual thoughts, our church recommends Exodus to help you through the problem. Don't feel alone, like addiction to porno, it effects a lot of people.

 

The Right Way,
I have noticed you oppose anyone saying anything in the negative concerning homosexuals.

I made an apology to you the other day concerning the 'email' I posted. You made a judgement on the heart and lifestyle of a man based upon a paragraph he wrote in an email message that he is probably only a homosexual trying to justify his actions.

I asked you how you derived this and you really didn't answer the question, you just said something about how that it was sad this man is a pastor.

Well, tell me, how can you pass a judgement on the heart condition of someone based on a few lines they wrote in an email message?

how can you tell brothers and sisters to keep their mouths shut about that which is clearly abomination in the sight of the Lord?

I am thankful there are still people here in this country who are willing to be politically incorrect for the sake of the true word of God.

I for one will continue to express my belief according to the Word of God in opposition to homosexuality, abortion, and whatever else the depraved hearts of men wish to justify to satisfy the lusts of the flesh.

I do not believe that homosexuality is a natural tendency, I do not believe God instills into any individual that tendency, I believe it comes forth from lust and manifests openly in sin. Our great nation legislating 'civil unions' or even permitting a re'definition of marriage will not at that time, nor in eternity change the word of God.

What you call 'bashing' the Bible calls speaking line upon line, precept upon precept, and if they speak not according to that the truth is not in them.

Where we disagree, then lets disagree, but where we disagree, don't bash me or others just because we disagree.

Bro. Dallas Eaton

 

Hey Brother Eaton, I agree with you that the queers are going to hell just like any other person refusing to turn from their sinful lifestyle. I'm just pointing out that this one sin seems to be over played on this board when there are all kinds of problems that we could talk about and do something about. I can see us stopping abortions; I can't see us stopping non-saved adults from having sex with each other. I never see any threads on our Christian brothers that are having affairs with other women, couples living together etc. Those are much more common sins that the Church needs to face AND CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT.

Re: the gay problem minister

I thought I answered you as to why I thought the pastor was a queer in denial on the other thread. Usually when someone "protests" too much..., to the degree they equate a common everyday sinner to a serial killer, it most likely means that person has some connection to that which he is equating with serial killers.

If you can't get that, or haven't been around long enough to understand basic human emotional problems, I can understand your lack of understanding. Yes, you can tell a lot about somebody in a single letter (email) they write and send out to everyone they know.

I also said it could be just about fund raising for his church or it could be a gay issue with his family member. I don't know what it is but it is something. He never told us WHY he was issuing such a statement.

He further made himself suspicious by lying about the facts and numbers.

You may return to your sinner bashing club. I just don't remember Jesus telling the sinners how foul they were, but rather showing them the way with assistance, love and understanding, then guidance and a warning not to sin. You seem to have a new humanistic approach to converting the lost. Carry a big stick and beat until repented.

 

Thank you for your reply, I have never been called a 'humanist' or anything like that.

Really, but it is wrong, I believe except the Holy Spirit visits upon people their sins, they will not turn, no matter how much me and you show them or assist them or even bash them over the heads with big sticks.

I remember Lot tried to give his two daughters to a bunch of guys wanting to get to know the strangers visiting Lot.

Now, you think we should make homosexuals hetrosexual whoremongers? or what?

i really don't know, but I do know that as great as this nation is and as great as the Constitution of this nation is, that it cannot rise above nor can it stand in place of God's word.

I know you really believe that also.

BTW, I do know a little something about human 'emotion' but perhaps less about emotion that the human psychology of motivation. On many of your points I would not disagree regarding this 'pastor'.

I may not have been around very long, but I have had a lifetime of education concerning psychology.

It is one reason I am opposed to the Catholicity of the mainline Evangelical world through the praise of the Passion movie.

Yea, I am from Kentucky brother, but don't let that fool ya

I will say here and now that the mistake was in posting that 'email' message. it was a thoughtless thing for me to have done.

The man has been preaching on homosexuality at his church and was sharing with some of us some things he found related to the subject.

He is sometimes very arrogant (I am too sometimes), he does sometimes 'twist' his words, but just last night I was defending the Word of God to the best of my ability on this very Board and was told I was twisting the words of the Bible imagine that.

I took something out of a context no one here had any access to. I thought about posting a link to his sermon, but that would reveal his name and I do not wish to do that.

Sorry to have offended you in my post and also in this one but I am not sorry to see Baptists who will still make a stand against the sinfulness of this world rather than to ignore it. You are right, there are a multitude of problems ailing the church, part of the reason for this is the continued failure to stand against worldliness and fearing the cause of Christ cannot be accomplished if the world does not 'accept' us or our message.

Remember dear Brother, the church in Jerusalem had the command to be a witness preaching repentance and remission of sins in the name of Jesus beginning in Jerusalem and to the ends of the earth, what made them engage in that command?

Thank you for your time.


Bro. Dallas Eaton

 

4-Christ,

We are having gay "marriages" in this country because most people do not believe in moral absolutes. Some folks that have conservative views are not taking a strong stand against this because their convictions are not grounded in the Bible.

We are seeing the results of liberal theology and lifestyles being allowed to run their full course. Liberal denominations that claim to profess Christ are just as responsible for supporting homosexual rights as much as the "secular" organizations.

Sadly, too many Chrisitians do no vote and remove themselves completely from the political process. We're allowing a VOCAL MINORITY to interpret what is right. We complain that this country is going to "hell in a handbasket", but we forfeit our rights to vote and let our voice be heard.

Some say we have a SILENT MAJORITY that is against homosexual marriage. If that's true, where are they? Have they voted? Did they write their congressman or legislator?

 

It's probably because it is so often in the news these days. Television and movies seem to be pushing homosexuality (and bisexuality) big time. I just got Bravo again and there a show called "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"? (I think). I thought Bravo showed movies but oh well.

Thank goodness for Discovery Times and History International. And to think, I hated history in school.

Kim

 

I just got History International and love it. In the last few years, the History Channel has begun to show a perspective which imho, places too great an emphasis on promiscuity.

Although I am certain it can be said to be history, still it seems to be an attempt at justification of present sinful tendencies.

Bro. Dallas

 

Next topic will be a discussion on adultery...those are sexual sins. Then after that, we can talk about gluttony. Then, we can move into the topic of fornication. I guess my point is, and forgive me for the over use of another cliche, we should hate the sin and love the sinner.

1 Corinthians 9:22
To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.

Kathy
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Not quite. Read Psalm 5:5 and Psalm 15.

We are to love and hate the sinner.

 

These are referring to God not to us. GOD is the judge of all. We are not. Jesus told us that the greatest of all commandments was to love one another as He loves us. There were no conditions attached to that.

Kathy
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