The doctrine of TULIP declares to us that God is creating believers for Himself without any choice given to the person. This person is created through the Holy Spirit regeneration. Once regenerated, this person will freely love God, worship God and obey God. Didn't God already create such a person in Adam, and then in Eve? If God's purpose in Creation is to have subjects freely love Him, worship Him and obey Him, and such a created person should have no say in this matter, it all being the creation of the Holy Spirit indwellement, then God had such a person in Adam and Eve, and then subsequently in all their offspring, untainted by any such thing as sin. No need for a hell, no need for sin, no need for damnation, not even a need for salvation. Make some sense out of this for me. You want me to believe that God needed to damn to hellfire billions of people so He could create some people to love, worship and obey Him? He could have done that and did do that in Adam and Eve. If this is what God wanted then He had it and had no need to place a forbidden tree in the garden of Eden and give the man and woman a choice.