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God is not a Republican (or a Democrat)

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JustChristian, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. JustChristian

    JustChristian New Member

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    Oh, so you don't know any nice young couples who really wanted to have a child but couldn't seem to have one? So they tried the test tube baby route? I did in my former church. I couldn't tell you with a certainty what their politics were. I've never heard a Democrat come out in favor of doing that have you?
     
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    All of the democratic candidates believe in that list of things. If they didnt, then the party wouldnt allow them to run for office.

    Most everything you listed as your beliefs line up with the GOP policy and platform.

    So why do you call yourself a democrat if you dont believe in the basic party platform? And why would you vote for it if you oppose it?

    AJ
     
  3. moscott

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    I'll say it again:


    Democrats(Liberals) support Gay rights
    Democrats (Liberals) want to legalize drugs
    Democrats(Liberals) are pro abortion
    Democrats(Liberals) want God/Religion out

    There is a reason they vote overwhelmingly Democrat while polls show Christians vote overwhelmingly Republican. Whom you align with says alot about you and your beliefs. There is also a reason Ministers overwhelmingly vote Republican:
    http://www.benedictionblogson.com/20...hern-baptists/

    Can't say 100% that God would be a Republican, but I can say 100% that he would align more with the Republicans values and beliefs than the Liberal Democrats.


    Seems the Baptist Preachers might know a little something about the matter.:tonofbricks:
     
  4. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Wow, for the most part, you sound like you're in the wrong party, BB.
     
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    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    What I do know is that Democrats are in favor of growing test tube babies and then killing them off to "harvest" their stem cells. :tear:
     
  6. JustChristian

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    Nobody has done anything to stop abortion. The Republicans use that issue to get evangelical Christians to vote for them but then don't do anything. I'm firmly against wars that aren't absolutely necessary e.g. WWII. The republican party has become the party of war. i support helping the poor and providing decent healthcare for most if not all Americans. The Republican Party is against these things.

    Finally, I don't vote a straight ticket. i've voted for Republicans for President and other offices. I vote the man not the party.
     
  7. JustChristian

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    No. When couples make the immoral decision to have a child through In Vitro fertilization they leave a large number of embryos frozen. Almost all of these are never "adopted" so the decision then becomes do do discard them or do you use them for medical research to help people with diseases like Parkinson's disease. The correct moral decision is to make In vitro fertilization illegal just as abortion should be made illegal. Since that hasn't happened the decision today is whether to trash these unwanted embryos or use them to help others.

    What's your call on this decision?
     
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    No stem cells no invitro get rid of it all.
     
  9. LadyEagle

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    I believe and always have believed that IVF is wrong, it is playing God. But your reasoning about using fertilized eggs for medical research is faulty, akin to using discarded aborted fetuses for cosmetics and scientific research since they are trash anyway. It's all wrong. Just as animal torture in the name of scientific research is wrong. Sinful man trying to be the Creator and using sinful logic to justify the sin. Romans Chapter 1.

    amended to add:

    The Stem Cell Research Controversy: President Bush vetoed expanded stem cell research (another one for the pro-life column, BTW).

    http://newsbatch.com/stemcells.htm

    How they voted on expanded stem cell research: (The Party of Death senate vote again, see the graph).

    http://newsbatch.com/vtarch706-stemsenate.html

    When I have time, I will research even more statistics to show the Republican majority is pro-life (including the present President) and our 2 candidates, while the Democratic majority is pro-death (including the Democratic 2 candidates). So to say the Republican Party has done nothing is an overstatement - a veto may not be all we pro-lifers hope for, but at least it's a baby step (no pun intended) in the right direction, along with crucial Supreme Court nominees. When it is all added up, agreed, abortion still continues, but at least there is a small check and balance to letting the left have total control over killing our unborn citizens.
     
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    Is it playing God when we resuscitate people or save people's lives through a whole host of medical procedures? Just curious about your feeling?
     
  11. LadyEagle

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    Not the same thing, apples and oranges. IVF and/or cloning, and those areas fall into the human life creation area - God's territory.
     
  12. moscott

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    Couldn't be more incorrect on a statement. The main and only 1 of the few true powers the President has is to nominate Supreme Court Justices. Democrats want Justices who would maintain Roe v Wade and Republicans want Justices who would overturn Roe v Wade. In the last few years the nominations have gone Conservative. If Obama and Biden and Pelosi etc...have power---you can bet the next Justices to be appointed will be ultra Liberal(Ginsburg, Breyer) nominated by whom else but Bill Clinton. In the next 4-8 years you will likely have 3-4 new appointees. God help us if Obama gets the picks.:tear:
     
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    The statement was not sincere. It is just an excuse to sooth a guilty conscience for supporting a pro-death candidate.
     
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    Even Conservative justices may not overturn Roe v. Wade. Every candidate has to testify before the Senate. Every candidate is always ask how important they believe precedent is in their decisions. Every candidate always says, "Precedent is very important." If they did not answer thus they would never be approved as Supreme Court Justices. No case in our history has more precendent than Roe v. Wade. If the Justices were telling the truth, then they will not overturn Roe v. Wade. If they were lieing, then they are dishonest, unethical men/women. It is very doubtful they are that dishonest and unethical.

    No, I am not defending abortion, just stating what is and will remain that way.

    http://www.issues2000.org/Court/John_Roberts_Abortion.htm

    http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/08/AR2005110801938.html
     
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    Here's where you are wrong: Roe v Wade established a precedent, it did not have a precedent.
     
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    It stands because of decisions made after the initial decision. Did you read the quotes from the two Bush appointees?

    My point still stands, it is not going to be overturned.
     
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    It will be overturned because it is based on a lie. Therefore it has no legal standing.
     
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    Exactly. It sounds like some here don't want it to be overturned. :tear:
     
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    So, you vote to trash the embryo?
     
  20. LadyEagle

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    Nope, IMO, the only solution for those already created would be to implant them into a uterus and carry those children full term to delivery, not killed for their stem cells.

    Preserving the lives of those already created and creating no more, preserving the sanctity of life of the unborn, should be the goal. But your hypothetical still does not take away from the fact that the Democratic Party seeks to destroy life and Republican Party seeks to preserve life. What would Solomon do?
     
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