Hello Isaiah. Edit: We would like this to be a discussion about Vincent Cheung's 'The Author of sin.' If anyone has a valid point then they are welcome otherwise... Thanks. End of edit. Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. 9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Some would have it that God is not that much different from us. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. He is the doer of them all. This is a denial of any type of dualism – there is not another power that can cause prosperity or disaster.7 (Vincent Cheung. The Author of sin. www.rmiweb.org ) JOB 2:7 So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. 8 Then Job took a piece of broken pottery and scraped himself with it as he sat among the ashes. 9 His wife said to him, "Are you still holding on to your integrity? Curse God and die!" 10 He replied, "You are talking like a foolish woman. Shall we accept good from God, and not trouble?" In all this, Job did not sin in what he said. The Lord is the author of sin, in this Sober did not sin in what he said. How's that for a start Isaiah? If you want to start it another way help yourself as I find it next to impossible to start a thread. john.