God may be bigger than the Boogey Man, but . . .

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  1. Aaron

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    . . . is He bigger than than the bully man?

    The Veggie Tales are cute and in many places genuinely funny, but the theology is atrocious. Worse than that, they're sometimes lies.

    My kids were watching some old videos and I heard the "God is bigger than the Boogey Man" song. It goes something like this . . .

    God is bigger than the Boogey Man.
    He's bigger than Godzilla and the monsters on TV.
    God is bigger than the Boogey Man,
    And [sumthin' sumthin'—rhymes with "V"]

    The idea clearly expressed in the dialogue just prior to the song was that God will keep little kids safe from harm because He has a "special love" for them, so there's no reason to fear the monsters.

    Well, sure, there's no reason to fear the Boogey Man, Godzilla, or Frankenstein—they don't exist! But what of the monsters in this story? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20763724/ not to mention the pedophiles and the bullies?

    How would you teach your child to trust in God in light of the real life dangers children not only face, but fall victim to each day?

    After a few posts, I'll tell you how I countered the Veggie Tales lie with my 8-year-old.
     
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    Molehill, thou art a mountain!
     
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    I have a 10 yr old and a 6 yr old and we have taught our kids with Veggie Tales since they were 3 and 4 years old. God is bigger than any problem that we encounter as for the pedifiles and stuff like that we dont make a huge deal out of them our children are explained to as they needed but we dont worry them with "adult issues"nor are we going to tell our kids that Veggie Tales isnt true because it has such been a learning tool of God's word. I love King George and the Rubber Ducky and it is an awesome way to teach them on their level about David and bathsheba and God is bigger than the boogie man has gotten my 6 yr old back in his own bed and not in mine so I can enjoy a restful night's sleep. :sleeping_2:
     
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    Did the video talk about pedophiles? If not then it didn't lie.
     
  5. rbell

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    Agreed.

    The other "lie" is that tomatoes don't actually talk.



    :rolleyes:

    Well....there was that time I ate the marinara sauce that was past its expiration date, but that's another story...
     
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    When our oldest (now 17) was about 4 yrs. old, I decided to teach him to avoid strangers.

    "Now son, I'm going to pretend I'm a stranger and I'm going to try to get you to come to my car. Whatever I say, just run to mommy....(my son says, "ok") Hi little boy, I have some candy, do you want some? (my son says, "yes", with a big smile and comes to me) "No, No, No," I said, "you never go to strangers they might take you away from mommy and daddy."

    "Let's try again, I'm going to pretend I'm a stranger and try to get you to come to the car...ready? (my son says, "ok") Hi little boy, I have a puppy, do you want to pet him? (my son says, "yes", with a big smile and comes to me) "No, No, No," I said, "you never go to strangers they might take you away from mommy and daddy."

    "Let's try again, I'm going to pretend I'm a stranger and try to get you to come to my car...ready? (my son nods yes) Hi little boy, I have a balloon, do you want to play with it?

    My son bursts into tears and says, "Daddy, why are you a stranger?"

    So I say, "Let's go get some ice-cream, son, let mommy and daddy will worry about the strangers."

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    Oh where is my Hairbrush... Oh where is my hairbrush,


    oh where, oh where, oh where, oh where...

    oh where, oh where, oh where,


    is my hairbrush?

    Kids don't need, nor can understand deep theology...

    Besides if someone is relying on VTs to teach their kids theology... someone needs their heads examined...

    They should do just what you did Aaron.. discussion with your child..

    Good parent!
     
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    :laugh: Thanks for sharing.
     
  9. Aaron

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    Yes. It spoke of harm to children, and promised that since God created little children and has a special kind of love for them, He won't let bad things happen to them.

    That is a lie.

    Now, the question is, if you're concerned about the truth, how would you teach your child to trust in God when he's being bullied at school, [which is not a molehill in the eyes of a child] or when he hears of cases like that of Precious Doe? (which he inevitable will if he attends public school or interacts at all with other kids in the neighborhood).
     
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    No one protected me as a child as I was mercilessly abused by my dad, molested by a brother and two strangers, nearly kidnapped by a man in a van when I was 13, and bullied by my peers. My spirit was broken by my abusive dad so that I didn't have the courage to defend myself and just took it. No one (not even God) defended me or protected me.
     
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    which video was this that it mentioned pedophiles, sexual preditors, to little children?
    What your describing is reasons why your children shouldn't trust God.
     
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    If you don't want your kids watching veggie tales...fine; you're the parent, and God's placed you in charge; it's your perogative.

    So...since Veggie Tales doesn't completely address every issue in totality...it's a bad product? I don't think I agree...
     
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    The same way we teach adults that God protects us...

    Even when

    We lose a home
    We lose a loved one
    People lost their lives on 9/11
    A child develops cancer at age 4
    An accident takes the life of a preacher's wife...
    Etc...

    We live in a broken world, and although bad things happen... God is still with us protecting us.

    The Bible is full of God's protection.... If you don't teach your children that God will protect them, you are ignoring a big part of the Bible...

    Children need to feel secure.
    It is required for their development.

    To tell them that God doesn't protect them is a lie. He does.
    That doesn't mean they will be immune to bad things...

    But he is with us protecting us even during the bad.
     
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    I’ve never seen Veggie Tales but from what I’m hearing they are over simplifying things and that would be a concern of mine. The message that God loves them needs to be explained along with why He created the world in the way which He did. There are troubles and hardships we all need to be prepared for. That is why God gave us an Instruction Book about putting on armor and facing persecutions in order for us to gain knowledge which leads to understanding and wisdom about how to live our lives. It’s never too early to begin training your child to be wise about the truths that exist in the world not always being pleasant but part of God’s larger plans that have a purpose for being here.

    I once became frustrated watching a movie where a child was taken and everyone knew who did it but couldn’t prove it so no headway was being made. My daughter asked what could you do since the laws were protecting the perpetrator? I said in a case like this the worldly laws wouldn’t be an issue. I would take him where WE could talk and he would tell me everything I wanted to know and God be the judge if I did wrong. My daughter said, “I wouldn’t want you to do that Daddy because I would have already forgiven him.” Ahh, the innocent love of a child can cut to the heart!
     
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    OK - We have the video and NONE of us have gotten this out of the video. It speaks of boogeymen, monsters on TV and the like. Kids are scared of shadows in their room. Scared of the dreams they have. The video is showing that they don't need to be afraid of these "things" because God is so big that He's there for us even in the dark. I don't think Veggie Tales has EVER said that bad things won't happen to children. Atleast in all of the many videos we have at our home.
     
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    Benjamin, they are cartoons for little children... little children.... Ages 2 to 6 or 7...

    Little children need things explained to them in a way they can understand.
     
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    Veggie Tales has always been criticized by some who can't get passed their....We'll I'll keep my opinion to myself. It's a kid's video. I'm all the time telling my son that there aren't monsters in the closet or under his bed (he looks at too much Calvin and Hobbs). He can trust God. Ghosts, demons, etc can't be in a home where God is. But, I also explain to my son that there are real dangers out there and we must take certain precautions such as locking the doors at night, making sure the smoke detectors work, not going into a public bathroom without me, etc. because there are bad people who even hurt people who trust God and accidents that can and do happen to people who trust God. One day I'll be able to help him understand what it means to be as wise as a serpent and as gentle as a Lamb.
     
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    Right.

    Not to mention...the Veggie Tales series on epistemology and advanced logic was a marketing disaster.
     
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    to be quite honest with you, I like watching them things, the tunes are catchy, the writing is humorous, and my kids like them.

    The main thing here to consider, is, they are suppose to be simple, and kids get the point. They might be too complex for some of you to grasp, but kids are deeper than a wading pool and can get things when they are conveyed in simple ways. That's why they are kid videos, located in the kid section.
     
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    :applause: My thoughts exactly!!!
     

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