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God 'was sorry'?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by christianyouth, Jun 4, 2007.

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  1. EdSutton

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    Actually I don't see that Joel used "repent", "relent" (NKJV) or "repenting", (or any variation of any of these words) in this passage to say anything about a man "repenting", only that God may or may not "nacham", but perhaps I missed it, not knowing Hebrew at all. I see something about a man or a people "turning", but so not think it is the Hebrew word "nacham".

    You are so right that we want to impose our own ideas, too often, on what the Scripture is actually saying, in its own languages.

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    God just is. He is not limited by our concept of time.
     
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    Time is the creation of God. He transends it, but he also encompasses all of it. He carries time along by the word of his power in the same way that he carries all of creation along by the word of his power. If God ceased to bring each moment into existence, time would cease to exist.

    So the idea of time travel, as if time exists apart from God so that God must go from one point in time to another, is absurd.
     
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    God is everywhere and everywhen at the same time - how dare we box Him into a clock or calendar.
     
  5. EdSutton

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    That is why God is "I AM", and Jesus, God, the Son, was before Abraham, "I AM".
    (Jo. 8:58, c.f. John 8:24, 28; 9:9; 13;9; 18:5, 5, 8)

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    Methinks you are wrong but thanks for the Christian aptitude.

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    I agree that it is hard to explain. He knew at the beginning that he would need to kill millions including babies and innocent children, yet instead of killing only a few in the beginning, He waits and kill millions.
    Strange and perplexing. I hope you get a clear answer.

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    Who does God kill? Are we talking about the same God?

    Sin kills - pure and simple. God could have madeone great robotic race programmed to love Him, sure - but would that be love?

    There is nothing stange and perplexing here at all if one has a proper view of God.

    Why do you persist in trying to squeeze God into your little box of human understanding?
     
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    Are you saying God is bound by time and space, and has to travel back and forth? That's not omnipresence, omitemporalness or omnipotence.
     
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    If God cannot be understood then He is not God. God is a good communicator and is always understood. Eventually.

    God is logical.
    It is illogical to kill many when killing a few is better.
    I was trying to dither out why God would choose the illogical way.
    If you cannot say anything helpful then telling me that God cannot be understood is less than helpful.

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    If we are in God's image then understanding that time only flows one way is normal , natural and provable.
    In other words this is the natural law.
    God is not likely to break a natural law by flipping back and forth through time and then expecting man to know that He is breaking the law to accomplish what man thinks God is , was and did.
    So if time travel is out then Having Jesus as part of the trinity in the beginning becomes hard to explain.

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    You are holding God to man's standards, then. We are not sovereign.
     
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    You are trying to put God into your little human shaped box. God is totally logical - He is 100% logic.

    Sin mars our ability to be logical. Our logic is weak, tiny, and puny compared to His logic.

    Who is any man to try and judge God's perfect logic which is beyond our ken?
     
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    God does not have to flip back and forth through time - He is everywhere and everywhen.
     
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    God is justified by man.
    Man is justified by God.
    There must be a union.

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    God is justified because He defines justice - He does not need man's justification.
     
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    Then why bother with us. Why work so hard to show us anything.
    God needs man as much as man needs God.
    The justice He defines must be justified by man before implementation into the systems of man.
    In heaven as on earth means we are to accept all of God's laws and embrace them as our own.

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    Then why bother with us?

    Now THAT is a true question. There is one reason - God is love, thats the only reason why He would bother with us.

    I find it tragic that some try to define God by their own rules and standards.
     
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    Defining Him with our standards is the only way anyone can understand God.
    He cannot be understood by someone else's standards.
    If so then who's?


    Regards
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    His and His alone.
     
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