God's Love is not His Providential Care !

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  1. savedbymercy

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    People have confused God's providential care for all His creatures with His Eternal Love which is only for His Children Chosen in Christ Jesus before the World began, which is a huge difference. God as creator can and does providentially care and provide for all His Creatures without Loving them All in Christ Jesus, for instance, if one is a chief warden of a prison house of horrible and wicked prisoners of the worst kind, even though while they are under his watch and he must provide for their needs and care for them, give them water and food, medical attention if need be and etc, nevertheless he will do all this without having Loved them, these are things he must do, without having a tender affection for them are he does for his own children, that he provides for, for then is his disposition different ! God does provide those He does not Love in Christ with the necessities of Life because He is their Creator and must sustain them as long as His Purpose deems it necessary. Matt 5:45

    That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

    True Believers will emulate their Heavenly Father in this, as Jesus instructed here Lk 10:29-37, even though the stranger had religious differences and are our enemies in this cause, nevertheless, we should not withhold common mercies unto them when it is in our power to give it. This does not mean we Love them in Christ as our brother, in fact, they are enemies in that respect, but we do share a common lot together as God's Creatures, and should seek to be merciful to them if need be ! That is how God is towards them, even though He provideth not for their Eternal Salvation in Jesus Christ !
     
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    Why do you glory in hate? Agape love has various levels of manifestation and so it is with God's love. We are told to love our enemies and yet you deny God loves His enemies. Is our love superior to God's? Is God a hypocrit who tell us to love those he does not love???

    Yet we don't love our enemies at the same level that we do our friends, or our friends the same way we do our family, or our family the same way we do our spouse, or our spouse the same way we do God and yet the term "agape" is equally used for each one of these applications.

    God is not a big HATER in the heavens. God's love is manifested at different levels and in different ways. He does not love His spouse and elect children the same way he loves his angels or the same way he loves His enemies. God can hate Jacob in regard to redemptive design without hating Jacob altogether. His very patience and longsuffering are the fruit of love and he is very patient and longsuffering with the worst of sinners.
     
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    Here you go, evading the point of the post, and lashing out with false accusations.
     
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    Whats the difference ?

    Whats the difference between sinners God hates as in Ps 5:5

    5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.


    Now notice, the scripture states here that God hates not just the iniquity of these sinners, but the worker or workers of iniquity, the very persons who are committing the iniquity !

    But now, on the other hand, those Christ died for, scripture testimony states clearly that God Loved them as sinners, as workers of iniquity as per Rom 5:8

    But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    Now clearly, the testimony here is that God commendeth His Love towards these, WHILE WE WHERE YET SINNERS !

    So clearly, any honest heart can see that there is a difference with God in these Two different sets of sinners. One set is hated, and the other set is Loved.

    Now here is the difference. The group that is Loved Rom 5:8, they had all their transgressions charged to Christ, their iniquities were never charged to them but to Christ in order that He would for them make full satisfaction to God's Law and Justice, God sent Christ to be the propitiation for their sins because He Loved them 1 Jn 4:10

    Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

    But those sinners that God hates Ps 5:5 those are all sinners whom sins and transgressions and iniquities are charged unto themselves, Yes iniquity is still charged upon their persons, and never was it charged to Christ in their behalf ! So consequently they will always be before God's Law and Justice, Workers of Iniquity, and even in spite of all their sincere religious endeavors, all they will hear in the Last Day of Judgment is these words Matt 7:22-23

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    So that is the difference, one group of sinners that God Loved while in their wickedness had all their wickedness charged to Christ, whereas, the group of sinners that God hates, had all their wickedness charged to themselves !
     

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