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Going Greek ...

Discussion in 'Books & Publications Forum' started by apeman, May 22, 2001.

  1. apeman

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    I am tired of my King James ... I've decided to begin learning Greek and Hebrew so that I will have a real understanding of the scriptures. What books should I purchase and what has worked best for your more "learning inhibited" preacher boys?
     
  2. apeman

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    Any books at all? How about web sites?
     
  3. NateT

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    there is some stuff on the Greek New Testament Gateway:
    http://www.ntgateway.com/greek

    i've used some of the teach yourself greek on there, but have not really kept up with it. I think the best site i used off of there was one called 'little greek' or something like that, but they were all good.

    I would recomend not getting Vine's book, i got it b/c it was on clearance for 4$ but, at least for me, it wasn't laid out the best.

    Don't know about hebrew, sorry.
     
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Hebrew...might start with a copy of the masoretic text (about $50.00), then Brown, Driver and Briggs Hebrew to English Lexicon (about another $50.00), and then get a Hebrew Grammer at maybe your local seminary or Barnes and Noble (look in the Judaica section...about another $30-50), and then another good volume is Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament by Harris, Archer, and Waltke published by Moody Press (about another $30.00). Hopes this helps.

    Joseph
     
  5. Squire Robertsson

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    Got this as part of an e-mail message from Logos <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics by Daniel B. Wallace
    http://www.logos.com/products/product.asp?item=1733

    Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics is the best, most up-to-date, and most popular Greek Grammar available. The principles of grammar are thoroughly explained and easy to understand. One of the greatest strengths of this grammar are the in-depth discussions of the grammatical principles to specific passages throughout the New Testament. As a result, perhaps the most popular feature of the book has been the scripture index which lists all the places in the grammar where a specific passage is discussed or is given as an example of a particular grammatical principle. It's one of the first places you will want to look when studying a passage because you will want to see if the grammar affects your translation and interpretation.

    Now that the Grammar is in Logos, you can not only read or search the book, you can type the verse you are studying in the Bible Reference Browser and have an instant list of the sections with grammatical discussion appropriate to your verse, just click on the link and go directly to that section.

    Greek Grammar = $39.95 http://www.logos.com/products/product.asp?item=1733
    800-875-6467<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hope this helps
     
  6. Pete Richert

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    Before I give my advice, I want to stress that I think one can "really" understand the scriptures without learning Greek and Hebrew. I don't want to discourage you from trying because it is my favorite hobby and a noble pursuit. But I don't think you should have the understanding that the true meaning is hidden in the language. There are lots of good commentaries that can help explain the difficult Greek sections and therefor their difficult english translations. These commentaries will certianly disagree though and what you will find when you get into it is that the Greek is usually just am ambigious. Context and Theology will have as much weight as actual grammer.

    That said: Go for it. I love it and have been studying almost every day for a couple of years. The Zondervan Series mentioned above is by far the best series and has everything you need. While I'm sure many different approaches are fine, I would give the following advice because it worked for me.

    Get Basics of Biblical Greek Grammer and Workbook, both by William Mounce. If you go slow and really learn, this is all you will need for at least six months to a year.

    After you have finished with that get
    A Biblical Greek Reader, also by Dr. Mounce. This will give you more pratice and help ease you into the rough world of the biblical text.

    After that, the world opens up and there are lots of things you can study. If I could only stress it enough I think vocab vocab vocab is the way to go. You get good through practice and you can't practice for too long if you have to look every other word up. Zondervan has The Complete Student's Vocab guide to Biblical Greek which you can use for learning vocab. Also, they have A Reader's Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament by Kubo which gives the most scarse words verse by verse through the NT. It is invaluable for simply sitting down and reading the text, because you have all the definitions right there along side you.

    Other books that are helpful and that you should eventually own are

    Greek Grammer Beyond the Basics: Wallace: All the grammer and snytax of the NT. Nothing watered down like in the Basics book.

    The Morphology of Biblical Greek: why different tenses and words are formed the way they are. Helps if you understand the reasons for word formation and allows for less memorization. I don't use this very often.

    A Greek Text.
    A Septuigent Text.
    A Real Greek Lexicon. There are a couple to choose from.
    A Analytical Lexicon. You can look up the forms. This is a dangerous tool if you become relient on it.

    Well, I probably gave to much information. I think you should just get the Basics of Biblical Greek Grammer and Workbook. It really is all you need for at least a year and you can see if you like it and are seriously about learning before you spend lots of money.

    As far as Hebrew, I haven't started learning it yet, but I'm counting the days. Zondervan is publishing the "Basics of Biblical Hebrew" in just 7 days. Considering my success in the Greek Series, I'm going to stick with this series as well.

    Good luck
     
  7. TurboMike

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    I was wondering the same as the orignial poster. I would also like to learn more on how the Greek language is 'setup' and I'd like to learn to read and understand it. I know this is difficult with homestudy but would like to give it a shot.

    Does anyone have Word Studies in the Greek New Testament by Kenneth S. Wuest??

    This was recommended to me
     
  8. Pete Richert

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    &gt;&gt;I know this is difficult with ...

    Its not difficult. It just takes patience and discipline. Much like understanding the bible itself.
     
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