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Good news! Brits have timetable to draw down!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by ASLANSPAL, Jul 6, 2005.

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  1. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    http://news.ft.com/cms/s/a1384df4-ecbc-11d9-9d20-00000e2511c8.html

    “I personally think that within a year we could begin that transition to the Iraqi forces leading the effort themselves.”

    It is a view echoed by military commanders. Air Chief Marshall Jock Stirrup, the current Royal Air Force commander who will become chief of the general staff next year, said more stable Iraqi provinces – including those under UK command – were likely to be handed over to local security forces more quickly than first thought.

    By next April, a best case scenario would see current troops levels of 8,500 reduced to about 4,000-5,000, with a further cut in the period leading to the first quarter of 2007, when the British military presence is expected to fall to about 1,000 advisers and training personnel.
     
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    Good. But Britain is not exactly carrying the load and responsibility the U.S is.

    But it would still be too open ended for democrats to accept anything like this from Bush. They want exact dates and exact numbers...signed in blood. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Joseph_Botwinick

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    From the same article:

    1. I agree with you here Aslan. I think it is wonderful that the UK is following the lead of the United States of America with their exit strategy in Iraq.

    2. I am also happy that the part of the nation where the UK troops are planning a pullout are close to being ready to take control of their own security. I think this is a great thing for Iraq.

    3. You will also note that, while the UK may be pulling out of Iraq because their part of the mission is close to being over, that does not mean that they disagree with America's policy or exit strategy. Quite the opposite, they even acknowledge that their part of Iraq that they are leaving is not as volatile as where the American troops mostly are. When Iraqis are able to keep the peace in these areas where American troops are, they will likewise, as the Brits are planning to do, start coming home, which has been the exit strategy all along. I am glad that we have a president with a winning exit strategy. [​IMG]

    4. Furthermore, I am glad to see the UK also understand what Rumsfeld meant when he said the insurgency could last 12 years. They understand that this doesn't mean that the coalition will necessarily be there for twelve years. But, that an insurgency could last a long time, but would be controlled by a stable security force made up of Iraqis. [​IMG]

    This is indeed very good news. Thank you for sharing it with us, Aslan. [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    bump
     
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    That's been the US exit strategy for a long time, since before the war started.
     
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  7. ASLANSPAL

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    Good to see that people can agree and have
    fall back posistions instead of silly soundbites.

    I thank the Brits for giving us a blue print
    and a window on how to do it right..it is what
    it is ..A TIME TABLE.

    The less blood and treasure spent in Iraq the
    better off we will be.

    I think Blair just gave bush a lesson in
    Time tables.
     
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    #8 KenH, Jul 6, 2005
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    At last. Finally, as a Moderator of this forum, there is relief in sight. (sigh)

    So glad both sides can agree. (sigh) [​IMG]

    I think I'll have a bowl of Breyer's cherry ice cream, LOL. [​IMG]
     
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    Here's the liberals ideal exit strategy:

    Here's the right exit strategy:

    Patrick
     
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  12. ASLANSPAL

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    More on the Brits time table and what they may
    be leaving in the vacuum.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/07/international/middleeast/07shiites.html?hp&ex=1120708800&en=fb3ff3ce62480903&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=login

    Efforts to impose strict Shiite religious rule across Iraq would almost certainly spur resistance from Sunni Arabs and the more secular Kurds. But here in Basra, the changes have accelerated since the January elections, which enabled religious parties to put more radical politicians into office.

    Small parties with names like God's Vengeance and Master of Martyrs have emerged. They work under the umbrella of more established Shiite groups, but many Iraqis suspect them of being agents of the Iranian government. One of the leading parties was formed in Iran by an Iraqi cleric living in exile during the reign of Saddam Hussein.

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    The reality is radical Shite Islam and apparently
    the Brits know that and have not rocked the boat.

    So legitimate question is a radical Islamic state
    acceptable to the United States?
     
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    They will not be leaving a radical Islamic state. Merely more anti-war rhetoric from the anti-war Old York Times. It is interesting, however, that when your first source ended up not saying what you wanted it to say (anti-war) how you simply switched sources to the tried and true anti-war machine.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Too bad I can't read the whole article as I refuse to register for any newspaper.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Has there been any mention of what the Dutch troops are doing in regard to a timetabled withdrawl?
     
    #15 Ben W, Jul 7, 2005
  16. ASLANSPAL

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    Breaking news ..it looks like London has been
    hit. News is early but we reach out to our allies
    and offer them all the support in the world.

    Also having been to London 4 times it is such a
    hub for American tourists as well we hope and pray
    for mercy for all of Gods children.

    Ben W have not heard about Dutch...how is Australia responding to the British time table.
     
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    After today's events that timetable may well be eliminated.
     
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  18. ASLANSPAL

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    What have you heard OldRegular ..notice you are
    not laughing and actually connected words. ;)
     
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    #19 ASLANSPAL, Jul 10, 2005
  20. KenH

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    Mzkes sense to me. If Iraq is not much more self sufficient by the end of 2006 then there is a major problem.
     
    #20 KenH, Jul 10, 2005
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