Goodbye for now!

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Brother Adam, Mar 2, 2004.

  1. Brother Adam

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    Brethren,

    Even though this board has more personal attacks on it than almost any other board I've been to on the internet, it did have one aspect I believe in strongly- the freedom to post your ideas.

    Since this is now gone due to a new rule imposed by the administration of the board that has lead to the banning of several Catholic posters on the board, I'm leaving in search of another board where both Catholics and Fundamentalists can objectively debate.

    One Catholic teaching- that all who are saved, are saved through church has been misunderstood by the administration, and thus we lost great men and woman who have been able to openly share a great deal about the true teachings of the Catholic Church.

    The concern was that a weaker brother could stumble because of Catholics sharing their faith. Personally I believe that the Baptist posters on this board who so often can't even agree among themselves on the fundamentals is more dangerous than a Catholic sharing what they believe is.

    Unless if I am banned or this thread is locked, this is the last thread I will post on in response to any questions. Perhaps I will drop by to visit from time to time- I know this won't be my last post forever.

    Also, I'm not asking that the administration changes its decision. I respect their decision, and I know they will respect (if not leap for joy at ;) ) my decision to find a new board. An action to show I disagree with the administrators action.

    In His Grip,
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  2. Ps104_33

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    Enjoy your trip to Rome.
     
  3. BrianT

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    I must have completely missed the notice/implementation of this new rule, and it's results. Can you (or anyone) provide me with what the new rule is, and more details about this (via pm or email, if you prefer not to post on this thread)? I checked the "Posting rules" page and didn't see anything new.

    Brother Adam, I am very sorry to see you go.
     
  4. russell55

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  5. Jim1999

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    It is not a new rule, but a clarification of the purpose of the BaptistBoard. The rule about not turning someone from the Christian religion might be broadly, very broadly interpreted to include recruiting to other religions, including the Roman Catholic religion.

    My understanding of the statement. Not official, just personal understanding.

    The Board remains a privately owned forum and the owner has the absolute right to make changes or set the rules of engagement.

    If a rule is clarified, the posters are obligated to respect those rules as interpreted, or pay the penalty, without prejudice.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  6. Gina B

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    In addition to that posting, when the board was upgraded recently all users received a notice of the updated rules. It popped up when one signed on and users had to click on it to acknowledge they read it before continuing on to the board. In addition to that, it was verbally stated in this forum repeatedly.

    The issue of whether or not to notify people of being banned for it was discussed, and I think the reason it was decided to go through it without extended notification was that the request to not prosyletize was emphasized, the consequences stated, so in reality there was plenty of prior notification of the consequences of not following this rule.

    The poor reaction of some people who get banned, such as name calling and angry words, is something that many readers would not enjoy, so that also is taken into consideration and a reason why there usually is not something sent to a poster that states specifically that they will be banned on such and such a date. It avoids the readers on this board having to view such posts, and we also don't state names or try to draw attention to bannings to avoid the banned poster from being embarassed.

    Hopefully that answers questions anyone may have concerning how this works.

    I do ask that you allow further complaints/questions to be handled by moderators and administrators via the pm system.

    Gina
     
  7. BrianT

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    Thanks to all that responded, either here or privately, to answer my questions. Based on all the information I received, as well as for a couple other personal reasons, I have decided that I will also be saying good-bye to the BB at this time.

    God bless to all, it's been fun.

    Brian
     
  8. Jim1999

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    Brian,

    The Lord bless you, brother. Another Canadian voice gone silent. I did not respond much, but always appreciated our fellowship. May our Lord lead you in paths of blessing.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  9. dianetavegia

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    Adam, I really hope you and your sweet wife will reconsider and remain with us! You've much to share and we've all got much to learn. I've enjoyed our private talks too.

    Diane
     
  10. Dr. Bob

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    Losing part of the "cyber-family" is not easy. Some were forced out and that hurt. Others have opted out, either in protest or principle. That hurts.

    Whether through death, divorce or decision, there is hurt.

     
  11. donnA

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    I noticed this in that posting,
    There are, or have been, or are those who post sometimes but not regurlary, who are not members of a Baptist church at all in these Baptist only forums.
     
  12. Gina B

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    Yes Donna, that happens on occasion. Usually because they are unaware of the rule, or don't realize what forum they are in, and/or we don't notice. When it is noticed they are usually reminded of what forums are set up to include non-Baptist posters.
    There have been a very few exceptions because of extenuating circumstances, but for the most part there are usually no true non-baptists posting in the baptist only forums. And if there are, I'd have to say that for the forum having thousands of members it's amazing there aren't a ton more! [​IMG]
    Gina
     
  13. CalvinG

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    Gina,

    These folks who aren't Baptists may be making this mistake through mere negligence...because if you note the first page of BaptistBoard, it has the recent posts.

    Someone could go to the recent post...note that the topic looks like a general forums topic, and post without noticing the part of the board they are in.

    I don't know if you can restrict that front page to show only the general discussion topics to non-Baptists, but that might help with non-Baptists posting in the Baptist-only areas if this is perceived as a problem.
     
  14. donnA

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    I can think of at least one who is not active in a Baptist church, and not a member of a Baptist church currently, nor has been for some time, and always posts anywhere they want. Some people may have last been a member if a Baptist church, but this rule seems to specify they need to be 'active members of a Batist church'. Not attending a church, nor have current membership in a Baptist church is not active membership. It was even called to the attention of everyone on the topic it was discussed on. They admit to not being part of a Baptist church now. And it's not someone from down here in the other religions area. They've been here more then a year.
     
  15. Jim1999

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    Half of the forums are restricted to active members in Baptist churches...
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    I cannot read this statement in the official posting rules. If this statement is, in fact, NOW a part of the posting rules, there should be a defining change made in the posting rules. I am technically still a member of a Baptist Church, but not an active member, and in fact, attend an Anglican Church and a C&MA Church most of the time.

    According to this statement, I should not be posting in Baptist Only sections, even though I am a Baptist.

    I think a clarification is in order.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  16. Gina B

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    As stated, there are a few exceptions to the rules, usually at Webmaster's discretion. That's about as clarified as it gets at the moment Jim. I do thank you for asking about it so nicely!
    Oh, about it not being in the rules. I'll look it up. In the meantime, the headers on the forums do state "Baptist Only forums" or "All Christians", so even if it isn't in there the meaning is pretty obvious. But if you're like me, you don't pay that much attention!

    Donna, I suppose one could always pm him and complain, but I personally would feel odd telling someone who runs and pays for a board that isn't mine that I wish them to not do as they please with it.

    I do appreciate the thoughts and input! I'm going to go ahead and leave this thread open for a bit longer so others can say goodbye to those leaving.

    Gina
     
  17. Jim1999

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    Gina,
    With the full knowledge of the Webmaster, I was installed as a moderator. It was quite clear that I was a baptist, ordained to the Baptist ministry, and retired from that role. Nothing was said about me having to be an active member of a Baptist Church, and nothing has changed since then. I read and re-read the posting rules and it virtually remains the same.

    This is where my confusion comes in. Where is says Baptist only, indeed I qualify. If it was re-worded to to active member of a Baptist Church, then I would be limited to Other Reigions. Even my
    profile does NOT list a church connection. Technically, I am still a member of the last Baptist Church I served as pastor because my name is still on the rolls. So, now where are we?

    As everyone knows, I fully support the BaptistBoard, webmaster and moderators. When I differ, I just don't post. I was rebuked once by the webmaster, apologized and avoided the topic. I accept that, but this point is unclear and a definite change.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    In the interim, I shall refrain from posting on Baptist Only sites.
     
  18. Gina B

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    Donna and others, I forgot to add that when you see things you think violate the rules or are concerned about non-baptists in baptist only forums, you can notify a moderator and make them aware of what's going on.

    Jim, the rule on there says the following:
    You're right, it doesn't say straight out, but I do believe Webmaster has mentioned that membership in a baptist church is part of it. Like I said, there are some exceptions and I'm going to assume you are/were one of them! [​IMG]
    If you or anyone else is unsure of this send a private message to Dr. Bob, Barnabas, or Webmaster and ask. (you'll probably get a more timely response from Dr. Bob or Barnabas, as Webmaster's pm's and mailbox tend to fill up quickly) I would hate to give you an answer they might disagree with. There has been some discussion about it in the past and I think it's safe to say I'm still confused about it myself. LOL Sorry I can't be more helpful on that one!
    Gina
     
  19. Dr. Bob

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    MY FAULT. I "added" the word ACTIVE in my interpretation of the rule. It is NOT the official policy and I've pm'ed Jim not to start packing his bags . . yet! [​IMG]

    The problem arose with a poster who was baptized in a baptist church in a revival at age 9. They were now in their 40's, had NEVER attended a baptist church again in her life! She smuggly declared she was a "baptist" and would post where she wanted.

    We have some folks like Jim who is a retired Baptist but now nearly shut in and far from a baptist church. We understand.

    And for that matter, I am an ordained baptist and as active as possible in my sending church (I am a missionary). I tithe there and report to them. But often spend months helping in various churches or colleges that sometimes are not Baptist.
     
  20. BobRyan

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    Brother Adam says he is seriously considering adopting the Catholic errors that they draw in their half-serious interest in John 6.

    I for one was looking forward to seeing exactly how Brother Adam was going to navigate those shoals - how to grasp Catholicism without completely abandoning exegesis.

    (It is no "Accident" that you can't get Catholics on this board to partake in detailed exegesis of John 6).

    I had hoped to have that chance with Brother Adam.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     

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