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GOP Lawmakers Release Holder Articles of Impeachment

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    A rump group of House Republicans are tired of waiting for answers from Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. — they want him impeached and will formally introduce their charges Thursday.

    As Roll Call previously reported, a small group of GOP lawmakers have been drafting articles of impeachment for Holder over a string of controversies, including a Department of Justice refusal to turn over documents related to Operation Fast and Furious, a refusal to uphold certain laws — namely the Defense of Marriage Act, the Controlled Substances Act and the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 — and a refusal to prosecute IRS officials who accessed tax records of political donors and candidates without authorization. The articles of impeachment also charge that Holder provided false testimony to Congress — a “clear violation” of law.

    Texas Republican Pete Olson, who is leading the charge behind the Holder articles of impeachment, said this wasn’t a decision he took lightly.
    “Since the House voted in 2012 to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt, the pattern of disregard for the rule of law and refusal to be forthright has continued,” Olson said in a statement to CQ Roll Call. “The American people deserve answers and accountability. If the Attorney General refuses to provide answers, then Congress must take action.”

    http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/gop-lawmakers-release-holder-articles-of-impeachment/
     
  2. FollowTheWay

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    Let's take a look at de-classifying the thousands of documents from the Bush administration especially those about 9/11 and "weapons of mass destruction." Most of these are secret not because of national security reasons but rather to hide the truth from the American people.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    You just kind of make it up as you go along don't you?
     
  4. Crabtownboy

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    I thought you folk were people who want to abide by the Constitution.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2..._for_not_defending_an_unconstutional_law.html

    http://www.onenewspage.com/n/Politi...publicans-Want-To-Impeach-Eric-Holder-For.htm
     
  5. OldRegular

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    High crimes and misdemeanors! Holder and Obama are certainly guilty of these but the talk of impeachment is nonsense. Not that Holder and Obama are innocent but the Senate would never convict.

    CTB,

    If you would read something besides that reactionary-leftist m***e you might learn something worthwhile.

    Huffington was rich to start with but she is richer now by using Huffington Post to dupe certain people!
     
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    True the Senate would never convict, thus we are left knowing the only reason the radical Republicans are doing this is politics. Another example of wasting time and money.



    If the right wing media were honest it might mention that they are trying to impeach his for not upholding a law that is unconstitutional.

    Seems silly to say we want to abide by the constitution by using an unconstitutional law. There is no honesty there.

    I doubt that the House will ever take up the issue. As I said, it is simply politics with no real thought of actually doing anything.

     
  7. Bro. Curtis

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    You must not have read the link. I agree DOMA is unconstitutional.

    But what about these ?



    Article I of the impeachment proceedings claims that Holder “engaged in a pattern of conduct incompatible with the trust and confidence placed in him” by refusing to comply with a subpoena issued by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee for documents related to “a legitimate congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms that put thousands of illegally-purchased weapons into the hands of cartel leaders, ultimately resulting in the death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry on December 14, 2010.”

    “The Justice Department deliberately withheld documents, preventing the Committee from performing its constitutional duty to conduct oversight of the Executive Branch,” the white paper said, noting that any person who “willfully makes default” of a congressional subpoena is in violation of federal law.

    President Barack Obama exercised executive privilege over those documents, but that does not satisfy the group.

    “Despite the President’s dubious claim of executive privilege, Attorney General Holder violated federal law by failing to turn over lawfully subpoenaed documents requested by Congress,” the section-by-section analysis of the impeachment proceedings claims.

    Article III also charges that Holder violated his oath of office, this time by “refusing to prosecute individuals involved in the Internal Revenue Service scandal of unauthorized disclosure of tax records belonging to political donors.”

    Finally, Article IV claims Holder “provided false testimony to the House Judiciary Committee” regarding the potential prosecution of a member of the news media, Fox News correspondent James Rosen, using the Espionage Act.

    “Attorney General Holder knew that the Justice Department was investigating James Rosen as a co-conspirator in alleged violations of the Espionage Act as early as June 2009. Under the Privacy Protection Act, journalists cannot be investigated in order to obtain information about a third party. The fact that there was a search warrant carried out on James Rosen means that the Justice Department either intended to prosecute him, or the Justice Department clearly violated the Privacy Protection Act,” the white paper said.


    I agree one side is playing politics. Holder has been a joke as A.G.. Like the rest of team zero.
     
  8. poncho

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    There were many of us who wanted to do exactly that, but Obama and Holder wouldn't allow it.

    The Obama administration's aggressive, full-scale whitewashing of the "war on terror" crimes committed by Bush officials is now complete. Thursday, Attorney General Eric Holder announced the closing without charges of the only two cases under investigation relating to the US torture program: one that resulted in the 2002 death of an Afghan detainee at a secret CIA prison near Kabul, and the other the 2003 death of an Iraqi citizen while in CIA custody at Abu Ghraib. This decision, says the New York Times Friday, "eliminat[es] the last possibility that any criminal charges will be brought as a result of the brutal interrogations carried out by the CIA".

    http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...justice-department-immunity-bush-cia-torturer

    Why don't you ask Obama and Holder why they refused to investigate and prosecute Bush for his crimes?
     
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    Wow, didn't take long for the smoke-screen operators to come out of the woodwork to try to obscure the necessity to act on this, and other, future such actions against other administration gnomes, including the head gnome himself, the Great Pretender.
     
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    So the fact that both are guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors is irrelevant? A typical response of those who care nothing for the Constitution!

    And just what law is that Mr. Chief Justice?
     
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    Please stay on topic.
     
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    DOMA is only one of the three laws they are looking at. There is plenty of other stuff Holder is culpable for.
     
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    They why not drop the one that is about an unconstitutional law. Seems they either are not very smart, or have such a weak case they know they have nothing.

    Really they are just playing politics. It will never come to the floor of the House.
     
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    Yes because they do not know what they are doing and are in need to come on the BB and get legal advice from crabby. :laugh:
     
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