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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Mar 6, 2015.
The GOP does not want to make their white Southern voters mad.
Democrats that skipped Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to a joint session of Congress
SENATE - 8 members
Sen. Al Franken (Minn.)
Sen. Martin Heinrich (N.M.)
Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (Vt.)
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)
Sen. Brian Schatz (Hawaii)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.)
HOUSE - 50 members
Rep. Karen Bass (Calif.)
Rep. Earl Blumenauer (Ore.)
Rep. Corrine Brown (Fla.)
Rep. G.K. Butterfield (N.C.)
Rep. Lois Capps (Calif.)
Rep. Andre Carson (Ind.)
Rep. Joaquin Castro (Texas)
Rep. Katherine Clark (Mass.)
Rep. William Lacy Clay (Mo.)
Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.)
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (Mo.)
Rep. Steve Cohen (Tenn.)
Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (N.J.)
Rep. John Conyers (Mich.)
Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.)
Rep. Danny Davis (Ill.)
Rep. Peter DeFazio (Ore.)
Rep. Diana DeGette (Colo.)
Rep. Lloyd Doggett (Texas)
Rep. Rosa DeLauro (Conn.)
Rep. Donna Edwards (Md.)
Rep. Chaka Fattah (Pa.)
Rep. Keith Ellison (Minn.)
Rep. Marcia Fudge (Ohio)
Rep. Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.)
Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (Ill.)
Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.)
Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (Texas)
Rep. Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
Rep. Rick Larsen (Wash.)
Rep. Barbara Lee (Calif.)
Rep. John Lewis (Ga.)
Rep. Dave Loebsack (Iowa)
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (Calif.)
Rep. Betty McCollum (Minn.)
Rep. Jim McDermott (Wash.)
Rep. Jim McGovern (Mass.)
Rep. Jerry McNerney (Calif.)
Rep. Gregory Meeks (N.Y.)
Rep. Gwen Moore (Wis.)
Rep. Beto O'Rourke (Texas)
Rep. Donald Payne (N.J.)
Rep. Chellie Pingree (Maine)
Rep. David Price (N.C.)
Rep. Cedric Richmond (La.)
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (Ill.)
Rep. Adam Smith (Wash.)
Rep. Bennie Thompson (Miss.)
Rep. Mike Thompson (Calif.)
Rep. John Yarmuth (Ky.)
I guess they didn't want to upset their base either.
You are comparing apples and oranges. One deals with a foreign leader and Congress playing politics for their own gain.
The other is remembering a sad, yea a tragic event in American history. Not the same thing at all.
I doubt many people would have been upset if all the Democrats had attended the speech. I wouldn't have been. But I see their reason for avoiding this political play by the GOP. The GOP and Yahu violated established protocol. shame on them and shame on politicizing foreign policy and aiding another in a foreign election. You, I and just about everyone would be enraged if a foreign power did something like this in an attempt to influence one of our presidential elections.
Both are nothing more than political shows.
Crabby - You really don't think that the Democrats will attempt to politicize the Selma memorial? C'mon, man!
Surely you recognize that it was Democrats who were holding these folks back in the Civil Rights era, and now those Democrats are doing all they can to rewrite the history of the events and make themselves look better. It's nothing but a political play.
Sure, there will be some people at the memorial event who are genuinely interested in seeing history properly remembered. But there will also be plenty who will seek to cast political mud on those who do not attend, or on those that they think should not attend.
The Democrats do not have to politicize Selma, the Republicans are doing that by not attending. They are missing a good opportunity to show they are concerned about minority groups, but instead they are insulting them by showing indifference.
You are right historically. It was the Democrats holding these folk back in the Civil Rights Era. But that changed with Nixon establishing the GOP Southern Policy. Now it is the GOP trying to hold them back by denying voting rights, taking away programs that have been in place since WW II, etc. Sad but true though the GOP will never admit it.
That is always true. I have two European friends who will be there out of interest. It will be interesting to find their take on this.
Ironic. Isn't making a big deal out of three Republicans not going politicizing the event?
How many Democrats are not going to be there? How many liberal politicians are skipping this event? Or are you saying every Democrat politician in the US is going to Selma? Are the Democrats who aren't going not likewise "insulting" minorities by skipping the event?
Does Crabby think these "three" republicans would receive anything but a cold, cold reception in Selma? If he thinks they would be warmly welcomed he's smoking more of the liberal talking points than I thought he was. I am sure Rose and Hank Sanders would love to have them over for tea, Not!!!! Maybe Alvin Holmes will ask them to make a speech or one of the local black congregations will ask them to speak at their church on Sunday morning. Fat chance!!
Don't know how many Democrats are going, but obviously some are.
Those who do not attend are IMHO insulting the minorities and also those who opposed racial segregation in Selma. But it is not every Democratic member as it is with the GOP
You may remember the GOP leadership also did not attend the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech in 2013.
Good for them! They've shown a lot of backbone to oppose AIPAC's designs, which is REALLY the entity being upset here, not these congressmen's constituents. Crabby's right on that one.
Not for sure about the count yet, but seven or eight of these are Jews that boycotted the political charade.
Are you going to Selma? If not, aren't you insulting the minorities just as well?
You gotta stop playing these political games, CTB. Sag38 was right, you know? None of these GOP members would be welcomed at such an event. Doesn't matter what their personal convictions are. The left has played such a masterful game at rewriting history that they convinced massive portions of the minority population that Conservatives hate them. That's not true, and you know it. But it plays a nice political message and it drives people to vote.
Sad but true.
I think that outside of John Lewis who was actually there 50 years ago, the politicians who are there for the right reason, won't try to put themselves in the spotlight.
It would be cool to see House and Senate Democrats and Republicans show up unannounced and just be part of the crowd .
Unfortunately, the GOP members run the risk of appearing as hypocrites there to commemorate Selma and voting rights while not supporting legislation to restore a voting rights act provision nullified by the SCOTUS in 2013.
Are you kidding me ? Three ?
Gotta do all possible to get the focus off Hillary, ya know!!
Too bad Robert Byrd ain't around. Do you think he would have gone ?
Yea, news will be created and spun from both sides to 'focus' on or away from potential candidates now to Nov 2016. Oh joy for joy.
And it's already old. ISIS is chopping off heads , but we're on Hillary's email account. :laugh:
Things like ISIS is why people aren't gonna care about those emails. And like with Obama, this might backfire because people are gonna start to think that the GOP is more concerned with emails than the things that matter to them.
I tell you that the GOP is on the sidelines with the Hillary thing--it is coming from the left wing of the Democrat Party or maybe even Obama settling old scores.
At any rate, I can't think that the GOP would even be welcome at the Selma event.
Why does one have to go there to remember it?
I remember things that happened in other places. Heck, at my age, I remember a lot of things that took place at places that aren't even there anymore.
And, for that matter, what's the point of remembering something that has since been replaced by thugs shouting "Hand up, don't shoot"?
And what did you think about the substance of Netanyahu's speech? Do you have the sense to recognize the danger Iran poses?
Not particularly. I don't expect the president to stop being the president just because it's close to election time. Why would I expect Netanyahu to stop being PM?