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Gordon Clark On The KJV

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Rippon, Apr 24, 2006.

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  1. Rippon

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    Mention was made of my buddy ( never met him , just appreciate his books very much ) Dr.Gordon Haddon ( as in Charles HADDON Spurgeon ) Clark . He was indeed a fan of the KJV , but certainly not a KJV-only guy . He had a number of qualifiers to his position . A long time ago I took note of his remarks on various English Bible translations . The following are a smattering .

    John 10:29 " KJV has no man -- original -- no one . "

    John 19:13 " The KJV is incorrect in using the singular . "

    1 John 2:23 " The TR , that is the text of Erasmus published by Stephanus , from which the KJV was translated , does not have the last sentence of this verse ... the TR is guilty . "

    Col. 3:2 " The KJ translation , ' set your affections ' is not a particularly good one . "

    Col. 2:18 " The KJV intruding [ is not a good rendering ] .

    Col. 2:18 " The KJV word reward is not in the text . "

    Col. 2:2 " The English may have been appropriate iin 1611 , but in 1978 it gives the wrong sense . "

    1 Peter 3:1 " The KJV term conversation is an antiquated usage . "

    Eph. 5:15 " Incorrect in the KJ version . "

    Eph. 1:8,9 " The KJV is ambiguous. "

    1 Cor. 12:31 " KJV -- mistranslation . "

    1 Cor. 9:20 " The KJV omits ' though I myself am not under the law . "

    1 Cor. 8:11 " The KJV suppresses the gar ( for ) .

    1 Cor. 8:6 KJV is wrong .

    1 Cor. 7:21 " The KJV ignores the Kai ( even ) .

    1 Cor. 4:6 poor translation . Think and men are insertions .

    1 Cor. 3:17 " The KJV is mistaken as to the meaning of the last three words of verse 17 . "

    1 Cor. 3:5 " The KJV unfortunately translates ' to every man . "

    1 Cor. 1:30 Is made is preferable to the KJV became .

    2 Peter 1:19 " One must credit Weymouth with the best solution to these difficulties . "

    2 Peter 1:20,21 " The KJV and American Revised Version have poor , unintelligible translations . "

    2 Peter 1:12 " The KJV depends on a poorly attested reading . "

    2 Peter 1:5,6,7 " The KJV takes the easy way out . Does it do justice to the language and the thought ? "

    2 Peter 3:21,22 " Unfortunately this phrase from the KJV is most likely a misinterpretation . "

    1 Peter 1:13 " Hope for the grace that is brought . " -- KJV . Greek -- Hope for the grace that is being brought . "
     
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    1 Thess. 1:5,19,20 "... not 'wickedness' as the KJV has it . "

    Ro. 1:4 KJV -- Declared to be the Son of God by the resurrection . " The meaning seems to be weakened . "

    1 Thess. 1:10 " But the KJ translation is definately incorrrect . "

    1 Thess. 2:3 " The translation uncleanness in the KJ does not seem quite right . "

    " In many places the RSV is better in English and more accurate in translation than the KJ . "

    " The NIV with its many excellencies ... "


    I am just using these old notes of mine which are not in order or exact .

    I had simply written that the following texts in the KJ GHC thought were wrong , poor or mistranslations .

    All of these are from 1 Cor.

    3:9 ; ;7:29 ; 11:16 ; 11:29 ;12:7 .
     
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    So what we have here are one man's opinions on translational choices?
     
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    Yeah , pretty much . I just wanted folks to know that though Clark was a KJ and kind of a TR advocate , he did not accept either as sacred . He was honest enough to admit his differences with them . My notes on his remarks just fleshes that out somewhat .
     
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