Gospel Singers called of God?

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  1. GIG

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    Do you believe that people can be called of God to a Gospel singing Ministry that travels even on Sundays?
     
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    I will if someone can show me a "Gospel Music Ministry" in the Scriptures.

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    How about a prisons ministry? Or a sports ministry? Or a door to door ministry?

    Before you say,"Show me...." remember that times have changed, and calling is an act upon the heart, not of written words.

    We are called to praise God, and worship Him, and follow Him....These are clearly laid out in the Bible, but the ways of doing it are not.

    Show me in the Bible where it says to have a tracks ministry, or a shut-in ministry? It's not, so, a lot of the "minisitries" in church, according to your argument are not ministries at all.

    ~Teresa~
     
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    Travelling on Sundays.....Many, if not all of the Christian/Gospel artists, while they travel do have pastors/ministers on staff while they tour. Worship is of the heart, and the places can very. As long as they are following God and are traveling home then I see no problem with it, because they are not working, they are coming home.

    ~Teresa~
     
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    I tend to see Gospel music not as a ministry but as entertainment that may present ministry opportunities as a pleasant consequence.

    I have no problem with the idea of people being "called" to it or with people traveling on Sundays.

    Mike
     
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    I believe Bill Gaither has someone who fills that resposibility. I know that they do devotions, and I also believe that Steve Green also has someone he travels with.

    I suppose the ones that I know about I was referring to. Sorry for not being more careful.

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    Hey Teresa,

    I've never worked with Steve Green (he had just left WhiteHeart when I started in CCM) But I'll take your word for it.

    While I'm not aware of any who travel with ministers, you're right that they do often hold devotions.

    I've been to band devotions with D&K, Scary Cats and others and the often attended our church if they knew they weren't going to be able to get home in time for their own.

    One of the best memories I have from those days is Steve (I'm pretty sure it's Steve - it's been a while) from the Scary Cats leading a worship service for our kids.

    No lights, no cameras, no publicity.

    He was just there because he cared about the kids and wanted to share Jesus with them.

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    One is hard-pressed to find any Scriptural justification on it. Ephesians 4:11 lists the offices to which one can be called of God, and 1 Cor. 1:21 prescribes God's chosen method.
     
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    Aaron-I feel I must differ from your stated opinion. What you are talking about are spiritual gifts; the subject under discussion is God given talent. There is a difference between the two. And Paul, in Ephesians, is discussing gifts of the Holy Spirit, not talents. He is specifically saying that he had NO talent for preaching in 1 Corinthians - and acknowledges that the Lord worked through him by the power of the Spirit to testify.

    Now, as far as the method given, in Paul's case, it was the simple spoken word. But it is not stated that this is the only method allowed - the Psalms proclaim the gospel just as surely as any preacher, and they are songs. I believe that God can touch our hearts in such a way that we feel the "call" to use our earthly talents He gave us to reach others with the good news of salvation. I think this call is just as real as the one that our preachers feel. And just as Paul travelled from town to town, so can today's "music ministries" do the same - more or less like the circuit riders of yore, who did not always have services at the "normal" time or place, but were no less effective in reaching those who needed to hear the Word.

    Just my two cents worth. [​IMG]

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    Since there is no reason to think that anyone-- short of a Damascus Road type experience-- is "called of God" to do any particular thing, then gospel singers are not. But what is this thing about "travels even on Sundays?" Cars, planes, buses, trains, the roads, the rails, and the air are all as functional for travel on Sundays as any other day. [And water travel also, as I left that out at first.]
     
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    Times change, God's message does not. Hebrews 13:8
     
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    People can choose to do whatever they want,whether we call it called of God is a totally different story. God shows us in His word what he "calls" us to....obedience,glorifying God,giving witness to His grace,and many others. God gives us talents and gifts,we can choose how to live those out,but I do not believe God calls us to do these specific things. And if it contradicts God's word in anyway,it definetely would not be God's will in that area.

    People can put a title of God's calling on anything,therefore making it right and acceptable with no argument from others. Not a good idea.
     
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    I'm was called by Christ to minister in Music. God has given me this talent and I know I'm supposed to do it to bring honor. However by the scriptures I beleive that we must be in a local church on Sundays. If they are on the road they need to be in church on Sundays if that means stopping and doing it. God commands this. I'm a pastors wife and my place is with my husband. I will not go out and sing in the community or different church when the services are going on at our church. I'm suppose to be where God has callen me. I've had offers to 2 contracts and I have turned them down because of the great demand of traveling.

    Also, Ive yet to see where sing actually has gotten anyone saved. I believe sing actually gets ones heart ready for taking in God's word thur preaching. I really beleive these two go together. I actually believe preachng is more important them me singing. I will not hinder this work by my singing abiblities. I know I could probably make more money in the singing business then what my husband makes in the ministry, but that is not what God wants. Input please this is a really great topic. [​IMG]
     
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    There is more to a singer and what they do than meets the eye. They do not just stand up there and sing...They find stories that apply and share them, they share testimonies so that those that aren't saved can hear what God has done for them... To say that a sermon is more important than singing, I say that what one does or does not do is even greater. Any person can stand up and give a sermon, but it is how and what they do afterward that counts. A sermon is just words, but when actions are put on by the one given the message is when the message really begins.

    For example, one may be preaching against adultery, but if the one preaching is participating then the message is in vain, is it not? If one is preaching about being drunk with wine, and they continually are, their message is in vain, is it not? It is not merely the words spoken that matter, but the lifestyle of the person who delivers it that makes it in vain or not.

    Sermon greater than worship? Hmmm.....let's think on that one....Is anything greater than another when we are worshiping our Creator?
     
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    Times change, God's message does not. Hebrews 13:8</font>[/QUOTE]So....what you are saying is that every word in the Bible still applies to today?

    I'm sorry! I missed the sacrificing of the spotless lamb and the feast and the worshipping in the tabernacle! Oh, wait, I'm a Gentile, I don't do any of that because that's the job of the Old Testament Jews....
     
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    Biblical music in the NT was a function of the local church ministry to prepare the hearts of the people for the preaching of the Word of God.
    There is no biblical basis for a music ministry other than one geared to the local church ministry. [​IMG] CCM musicians today are a business not a ministry...proven by the charging of money for their concerts. ;)
     
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    Covet earnestly the best gifts, 1 Cor. 13:1. ;)
     
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    Prison ministry? Hebrews 13:3
    Sports ministry? no
    Door to door ministry? Acts 20:20
    Tracts ministry? Based upon the principle of using God's Word to plant Gospel "seeds."
    Shut-in ministry? Based upon the principle of loving one another, etc., Romans 12:13.

    You're right, according to my definition, a lot of "ministries" in the Church really aren't. No argument there.

    By the way, times haven't changed as much as you might think (Ecc. 1:10). Not only that, but the Word of God lives and abides forever! It has not become irrelevant just because we live in the 21st Century.

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    Thank you for all of the replies...i do need to clear up one very important area..when i said travelling on Sundays, I was talking about singing in other local churches on Sundays not actually travelling on those days...I do believe and this is only my personal opinion, but If you are using your talents in this kind of ministry that you should look long and hard about charging a fee to churches....I have seen in our own ministry that the Lord has continually blessed our stand which is to come for a love offering and expenses if travelling over 100 miles.....I also think that there is something entirely different which is "the gospel music entertainment industry" which believe it or not is not a bad thing...These groups are performing a service..What else do us IFB's have as entertainment but to go out & pay for a ticket to see and hear somebody sing about Jesus.....Once again I thank everyone for their responses..
     

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