Governors shun Bush military plan

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  1. poncho

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    Survey finds most believe disaster relief is local job

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    Posted: October 4, 2005
    1:00 a.m. Eastern


    © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

    A majority of the nation's governors say they're not on board with President Bush's suggestion the active-duty military take the lead role in providing disaster relief, a new poll says.

    According to a USA Today survey, just two of 38 governors who responded to the newspaper's query said they backed the president's plan: Republican Govs. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts.


    About half of those who responded said they were either opposed or held reservations about Bush's plan. Among that group, the paper said, was GOP Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida, the president's brother.

    The younger Bush, during his tenure as Florida's chief executive, has gained much experience in providing disaster relief, having had to oversee the management and recovery of a record number of major storms since taking office. In 2004 alone, Florida was hit with four major storms in a six-week period, ending with Hurricane Jeanne in late September.

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    Just because one state has a waffling handwringing crybaby fool for a governor doesn't mean they all do.
     
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    Just one more nibble by the Feds to take greater control of your life; NO THANK YOU! :mad:
     
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    This action was practically begged for in Louisiana.

    The media, the local government officials, the victims and some of the people on this board all asked the same question.

    Where is our standing Army? Why aren't they helping?

    And this request by the President is a surprise? :rolleyes:
     
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    In retrospect this is no surprise.

    This is the first state I am aware of to ever let an emergency, that was foreknown, get to the point that such a request was deemed necessary.

    If LA wants it, then I'm fine with that; I don't!!
     
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    Neither do I.

    What is really needed is a different Governor of Louisiana.
     
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    A further usurpation of States rights/responsibilities.
     
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    Oh comeon...where are the conspiracy theorists when you need them?

    Isnt this just another diabolical plot of the President to suggest something be a rule - before the states all start crying for federal help? I can hear it now...tornado touches down and destroys the Tri-City area, local government asks for federal help and the President responds..."But you said no thanks."

    Capro, that line of thinking (Where is the Army now and why arent they helping) stems from the Clinton Administration when everyone thought it was perfectly fine for this country's military to do anything but protect it. I once heard my CO talking about how some of the staff suggested that the military get out there and build some homes for all those poor people instead of letting them live under the bridges.
     
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    Uh, busy working for Time Warner? :D

    [​IMG] They got their "eye" on you.

    Or maybe they are busy working for CBS.

    [​IMG] They got their "eye" on you.

    They might even be busy working for the government, after all... [​IMG] They got their "eye" on too. ;)

    [ October 12, 2005, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: poncho ]
     
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    I've always thought of this as a straw man put up by the President. In the initial hours and days, the cry came up from certain sectors of the country for more Federal involvement. Ala, "Why were troops just sitting around at Fort Polk? Why weren't they invovled with the disaster relief?"
    answer: because not all of the requirements of the Posse Commitatus Act and other applicable laws were met.

    So, the President says okay and lays a plan on the table to use the Military without the Govs permission. If I were to discribe this like a Texas hold-em on tv, I'd say the Pres saw and raised the certain sector's bet, the other players saw the Pres's bet and called him. At this point, the other sector saw the size of their needed bet and folded. When the other sector folded so did the Pres., as he expected he would.
     
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    A lot of people would not give the President credit for having that much political savvy.

    It did cross my mind.
     
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    G Dub has won more pots than he's lost because folks underestimated him. Now that's not to say he's the sharpest knife in the drawer, but neither is he the dullest.
     
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    Reminds me of a poem.

    A little off the subject, but still a good place for it.

    Out-Dumbed, by George!

    Did you really believe we’re too stupid to see,
    How you tried to deceive us with smug sophistry?
    Did you actually think we’d accept without thinking,
    That our ship of state’s hulled, our economy’s sinking?
    We saw how with help from your media tools,
    You picked just the right captain for your ship of fools.
    With your Cambodian Admiral at the helm of your boat
    You needed an ocean of lies just to keep him afloat.

    You put forward no spokesman with a true honest voice
    And offered the voters no acceptable choice.
    Your party got “jacked” by the loons on the left,
    And the rest of you’ve yet to wake up to the theft.
    You let billionaire bandits with a Bolshevik whiff,
    Take your “Ride” for a drive that went straight off the cliff.
    So, do you now blame your loss on these crazies and flakes?
    Nope, by Jove, it was Rove, must’ve messed with the brakes.

    Even now that you’ve lost, you refuse to accept,
    That your party’s outdated and its leaders inept.
    The election is over, and with your masquerades falling
    The true you we see is truly appalling.
    You’ve nothing but scorn for true faith and belief
    Holding up Christianity as some election year thief.
    Your apostasy’s clear to those blacks and Hispanics,
    Who, next time around, just may be your Titanics.

    So now as you sit contemplating your fate,
    Sipping modest Chablis, camembért on your plate,
    Just remember your failure in sowing false fears,
    And let this burn in your brains for four more long years:
    Even owning the press and controlling the tube,
    You got your butts whipped by an’ ol’ Texas rube.
    So, keep pondering this ‘til your brains are all numbed
    Rove didn’t outsmart you; you were smartly out-dumbed

    That’s gonna stick in your craws ‘til you’re forced to disgorge,
    All you smart liberal wienies just got out-dumbed, by George.

    Russ Vaughn
     

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