GRAND JURY INDICTS PLANNED PARENTHOOD FILMMAKERS

Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by poncho, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. poncho

    poncho
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    19,657
    Likes Received:
    128
    A Texas grand jury has cleared a Planned Parenthood clinic of wrongdoing, and instead indicted two pro-life filmmakers who published videos alleging the abortion organization’s á la carte fetal organ harvesting.

    On Monday, a Harris County Grand Jury charged Center for Medical Progress President David Daleiden and activist Sandra Merritt with “tampering with a governmental record,” a second degree felony. Daleiden was additionally charged with a misdemeanor count regarding human organ procurement.

    Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson said they were left with no choice but to charge the filmmakers after an investigation on the Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast clinic in Houston turned up clean.

    Continue . . . http://www.infowars.com/grand-jury-indicts-planned-parenthood-filmmakers/
     
  2. annsni

    annsni
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    20,171
    Likes Received:
    369
    Clean? OK - if Planned Parenthood is clean, how can they charge this guy with human organ procurement - if there were no human organs to procure??
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    Must have been very compelling evidence for a Texas grand jury to make this decision. Nope, I have no idea what the evidence was and probably will never know.
     
  4. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,303
    Likes Received:
    784
    Actually according to Judge Andrew Napolotano it is easy to get an indictment. He also believes this is a political hit job. This I would not doubt. PP should be shut down. The most evil organization in America.
     
  5. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    Well, agree or disagree with you, that is not the way the Grand Jury saw it.
     
  6. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,303
    Likes Received:
    784
    No not with me with an experienced Federal Judge.
     
  7. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    Are you saying:

    1. You are an experienced federal judge?
    2. You know an experienced federal judge?
    What do you mean, "me with an experienced Federal Judge"?
     
  8. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    :confused: What do you mean, "with me with an experienced Federal Judge"?
     
  9. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,303
    Likes Received:
    784
    You know, I just do not feel like playing your childish games today.
     
  10. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    No, I'd really like to know. Your sentence makes no sense. I have no idea what you were trying to say. It was a grand jury not the judge who made the ruling.

    Did you read the quote in the OP:

    "Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson said they were left with no choice but to charge the filmmakers after an investigation on the Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast clinic in Houston turned up clean."
     
  11. Don

    Don
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2000
    Messages:
    10,542
    Likes Received:
    208
    The primary thing these people are being charged with is falsifying a California license; thus, the "governmental record." I haven't seen more explanation on the human organ trafficking charge; but because the two were presenting themselves as interested in human organs, with no actual intent towards such, I don't see that charge sticking. That would be like saying you or I posed as human traffickers in order to expose human trafficking, then finding us guilty of human trafficking.

    Since those are the only actual charges, with the result of their actions being a major embarrassment for Planned Parenthood, this simply reeks of retaliatory action.
     
  12. annsni

    annsni
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    20,171
    Likes Received:
    369
    I will help here since it's pretty clear - bolding mine:

    We see RevMitchell posted what a federal judge said. Crabby said "agree or disagree with you" and Rev said "not with me" because his post wasn't about him but what a federal judge said. Is that clearer? ;)
     
  13. Jerome

    Jerome
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    5,617
    Likes Received:
    44
    No...Napolitano is no federal judge. He was a lower court judge in the New Jersey state system.
     
    #13 Jerome, Jan 26, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016
  14. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,303
    Likes Received:
    784
    Ann he knows he was just trying to make something out of my words that I did not say as usual.
     
  15. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    Well friend, you need to use punctuation to make your comment clear. It was not at all clear the way you wrote the sentence. Now, tell me, what about the Federal Judge? I do not know what you think a judge had to do with this as it was a grand jury that made the decision.

    There was no bold text in your reply ... no punctuation either other than a period at the end.

    Punctuation really does matter;

    “We have a language that is full of ambiguities; we have a way of expressing ourselves that is often complex and elusive, poetic and modulated; all our thoughts can be rendered with absolute clarity if we bother to put the right dots and squiggles between the words in the right places. Proper punctuation is both the sign and the cause of clear thinking. If it goes, the degree of intellectual impoverishment we face is unimaginable.”
    Lynne Truss, Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation
     
    #15 Crabtownboy, Jan 26, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016
  16. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    Not true Rev. You punctuationless sentence carries no meaning. As I ask, what does a federal judge have to do with a grand jury decision?
     
  17. 777

    777
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2006
    Messages:
    1,150
    Likes Received:
    59
    Oh big deal, some grand jury in downtown Houston indicted them for "tampering with government evidence", whatever that means. And they want 20 years for this - the DA office down there has a PP board member working for them, total railroad. But you know what they say, you can indict a ham sandwich.
     
  18. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    9,633
    Likes Received:
    310
    It has been said (regardless of jurisdiction) that a District\State's\U.S. attorney can get grand jury to a ham sandwich indited for murder. That's not to say a trail jury will convict.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,619
    Likes Received:
    158
    Very true, to be indited by a grand jury is not a conviction. The burden of proof is very different in a jury trial from that in a grand jury.

    From: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html

    Grand juries do not need a unanimous decision from all members to indict, but it does need a supermajority of 2/3 or 3/4 agreement for an indictment (depending on the jurisdiction). Even though a grand jury may not choose to indict, a prosecutor may still bring the defendant to trial if she thinks she has a strong enough case. However, the grand jury proceedings are often a valuable test run for prosecutors in making the decision to bring the case.

    If the grand jury chooses to indict, the trial will most likely begin faster. Without a grand jury indictment, the prosecutor has to demonstrate to the trial judge that she has enough evidence to continue with the case. However, with a grand jury indictment, the prosecutor can skip that step and proceed directly to trial.
     
  20. faithgirl46

    faithgirl46
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2005
    Messages:
    2,778
    Likes Received:
    2
    The grand jury will answer to God on Judgment Day.
     

Share This Page

Loading...