Grey area's that the bible doesn't talk about

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  1. TBLADY

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    Some Christians have the misunderstanding that God's word covers every asspect and details of life. Therefore we do not need support from any outside resources.

    Just reading this board and talking with people in person, shows NOT everyone can agree on even simple truths of scripture, much less things that are considered GREY area's.

    Let me say that is do feel one can use scriptural principles to back up ones belief on any given grey area, but even those are based on ones own interptetion. Yet at the same time have merit.

    Please list some grey area's that you feel the bible is silent on. And we will see how scripture can have answers for them.
     
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    Worship styles...

    Why do some in Western Christianity think that only the worship style of the Southern USA is the only one God accepts?
     
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    I agree that people sometimes can't even agree on simple truths of the scripture. It isn't because the bible is unclear or wishy-washy, but people are.

    And sometimes, it isn't even our being wishy-washy. People come from different backgrounds that cause their interpretations of the scripture to sometimes be different. All of the following and more can lead two different people having two different understandings of the same exact passage.
    • Spiritual maturity vs. spiritual immaturity.
    • One's response to life's crushing experiences and circumstances.
    • The baggage, both good and bad, of what one was raised to believe.
    • Does one read for himself or herself or does one only take for granted what the preacher and Sunday School teacher tell him or her the scriptures mean?
    • Spiritual discernment or the lack thereof.
    • Reading in or out of context.
    • Having a steady diet of bible reading/study or starving for it.
    • One's political persuasion.
    • One's problem areas where sin attacks them consistently.
    There's more. We must be careful that in our discussion of the bible that none of these things get in the way of the Truth.

    With all due respect, I don't believe that there are too many grey areas in respect to their being no answer in the bible. I know what you are talking about, but I think it more like this.

    The bible doesn't address bungee-jumping. But it does say to not tempt God. And when satan quoted Psalm 91 and told Jesus that it would be safe for him to jump off of the roof, Jesus knew that satan was purposefully misquoting God's Word.

    I think that bungee-jumping is a fool-hearty issue. Is it a sin? Only if you are "tempting God" or saying, "well, I'll just jump and let God handle the details".

    So that might qualify as a grey area for some, but for others it would be strictly black/white.

    I, personally, think that there aren't too many issues that can't be at least indirectly linked to principles in God's Word.
     
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    Very good points Scarlett in which I whole heartedly agree. But because we do have different backgrounds and cultures and we have to admit because of sin, some have mental illnesses and not everything is perfect. that maybe God's word doesn't address everything.

    There mental illness is a good start, along with Tims music question.

    besides demon possession is all mental illness considered demon possession? I would think not.
     
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    I just realized fundamentalist focus all the time on grey area's.

    Women must wear dresses all the time
    Pastors must wear suits while preaching
    Music must not have a wordly beat
    Women must have hair long
    Men must wear hair short and no beards or mustaches
    Must carry King James Bible
    Women must stay home and home school children
    Women must be obedient and submissive to husband all the time without input or opinions.
    Men must handle all finances

    The list goes on and on. And they will try and use the bible as their source of authority on these issues LOL
     
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    Unless of course the Pastor is a woman, then should she wear a dress or a suit? :laugh: :laugh:

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself...
     
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    Not all 'fundamentalists' have this mentallity. Why would God give us a book that does not speak to us, directly in our culture? Why would he leave us wondering as to what his will is?
     
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    Bravo christianyouth! That is a great question.:thumbs:
     
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    I totally agree, Gods word is applical yesterday, today and tomorrow. I never said it wasn't.

    What I said is, not every little detail of life has all it's answers in Gods word. There is medical science, physcology, social norms and other resourses to be looked at...as i see no one can tell me if all cases of mental illness is caused by demon possession? Some cases in the bible showed such cases, but not all. While we know that all poodles are dogs....not all dogs are poodle...see what i mean.

    The use of scripture, along with medical science, physcology, social norms and other resourses are to be used when dealing with everyday life. Just read the thread I started on women staying home with small children, the bible says that the women should be the keeper of the home and the husband is commanded to provide...yet those posting will disagree with scripture, and lean more on socialism.

    So what if some Fundamental churches do not believe the same, take the ones that do. The list I provided and I have seen three churches that do believe in all on the list, do they not twist God's word to push what they believe to be true? Yes they do. Anyone can take scripture and make it fit, whatever agenda or belief they want to.

    Not everyone believes the same when it comes to simple foundational truths such as assurance of salvation OSAS...Baptism...Sign Gifts....Thithing etc.

    How can we say that Gods word has ALL the answers for life, when you can't even get less than 10 Christians together who agree on anything?

    It's all about interpetation and how well one is studied in the scriptures and the proper use of HOW to study God's word.

    Bottom line is saying Gods word can be applied to EVERYTHING is just not true and isn't as simple as one thinks.
     
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    For mine I don't even consider it a gray area------it isn't covered anywhere in the Bible. I have asked Pastors, relatives, brethren etc...there is no mention/parable/example in the Bible that deals with a person having to live the rest of their life dealing with the pain of losing a loved one who died without salvation. The thought of knowing/thinking that their Father/Mother/Sister/Brother etc...are spending an eternity in Hell and you will never see them again. Unfortunately there is no comforting words for this.:tear:
     
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    Whoa! Socialism? Disagreement with Scripture? Please go back and read those posts for content and not on what you think they said. I see no support for this condemnation. Some of the women posting are/were stay at home moms. Why do you think we did this? Yet because we offered Scripture presenting a fuller picture of a wife than the keeper at home alone, we lean toward socialism? We disagree with Scripture?

    You post on a debate forum and are suprised when your pov is challenged? So surprised that you will keep bringing it up in thread after thread? Please take care in choosing the words you use to describe those with whom you engage (or their beliefs).
     
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    Moscott, You are right come to think about it, there is no mention of how to deal with such loss. Except in trusting in Gods sovereignty, which is easier said than done. Some or most things we will NEVER understand till we see God and maybe then it won't even matter....cause God's glory will be all that is important.

    So sorry for your loss and know the pain (as I have had other kinds of losses) you must go through.

    To me lossing a child is the worst and no one can help take away such a pain.
     
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    Of course it is socialism...if one wants to TRUST in the all mighty dollar, than Gods word and his abilty to put food on the table and meet the families needs. It's called justifying and trusting in self.

    Read George Muller and see if he asked his wife to work to help meet their needs...give me a break, we can't have it both ways now can we? Or can we?
     
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    What does the bible say about gambling? Not gambling all ones money away, but lets say leisure money set aside to go to the casino's, bingo, horse races or a porker game or lottery ticket. Kind of like money kids put in video games....isn't that like gambling?

    Bible doesn't have anything to say about that, that I know of!
     
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    1 I heard the other day-----doesn't explain how the world became populated with different nationalities/cultures after the flood.
     
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    There is a scientific answer to that question which can be explained through the same way many different breeds of dogs, cats and horses etc have evolved, through selective breeding and climate etc.

    I do believe the story of the tower of babel happened after the flood and expalins the different languages and people being spread all over

    Gen. 11
     
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    george muller is the not the bible or God
     
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    George Muller and other men of old, were great examples of Christians who put their faith in God and God alone and not what they could do, their money could do or those around them could do. Our country was founded on Biblical principles and Godly men and we have lost through socialism and feminism, that which God has put in place. The role of men and women and children.

    that is another topic...children who run the home instead of parents..how many Christian parents believe in biblical discipline and parents being in charge? Sad to say i see too many Christians falling for this lie the world has pushed on them as well.
     
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    What you are talking about experiencing is extremely painful. And for the Christian it is probably one the of most painful things to endure.

    I can only give you this scripture of comfort about the new heaven and the new earth and how one day your pain will be gone.

    Revelation 21:4 - "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are all passed away."

    Meditate on this....One day, God, Himself, who majesticly created the universe and flung stars all over the heavens and carved mountains and oceans into the earth will personally dry your tears and give a peace to your heart that you cannot feel right now.

    And for right now, the Psalm 56 says that God keeps our tears "in a bottle". Meaning that their isn't one single tear shed by us that He does not know about it nor know the reason why it was shed.
     
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    Very good post Scarlett...I just admire people who understand Gods word, who can help others and have wisdom. Thank you and thank God :)
     
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