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Hardee's, Carl's Jr. and PETA Reach Deal

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by KenH, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    PETA actually did something constructive in this instance.

    Hardee's, Carl's Jr. and PETA Reach Deal
    Wednesday September 26, 12:47 am ET
    By Jim Salter, AP Business Writer

    Hardee's, Carl's Jr. to Buy Eggs, Pork From Cage-Free Suppliers

    ST. LOUIS (AP) -- The Hardee's and Carl's Jr. fast-food chains will begin purchasing eggs and pork from suppliers who do not keep animals in cages or crates, spokesmen for Hardee's and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said Wednesday.

    Both chains are owned by Carpinteria, Calif.-based CKE Restaurants. Hardee's is based in St. Louis, while Carl's Jr. headquarters are in Carpinteria.

    The agreement aims to improve the welfare of animals that provide food for the 1,905 Hardee's restaurants and 1,101 Carl's Jr. restaurants, said Jeff Mochal, a spokesman for Hardee's.

    "We take the animal welfare concerns very seriously," Mochal said. "When you meet with PETA they make a pretty good case. We want to stay consistent with where the industry is at now and where it's heading."

    CKE becomes the second major fast-food restaurant company this year to begin moving toward cage-free chickens and pigs. Burger King announced similar changes in March.

    - http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070926/hardee_s_no_cages.html?.v=3&printer=1
     
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    They are going to kill then and make bacon. Why does it matter if they are kept in cages?
     
  3. Joe

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    Well, which would YOU prefer? To be allowed to roam free prior to being killed or be locked in a cage where you don't even have enough room to stretch your legs?
    Have you seen those poor chickens in those tiny cages? It's abuse, and it's unnecessary.

    Glad to hear this :)
     
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    Yea I'm sure thats what those animals are worried bout stretching their legs.
     
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    What is wrong with treating animals humanely, even if they are being raised for food?
     
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    Where did I imply there was anything wrong with it? However treating animals like humans seem rathe silly.
     
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    Production costs have to be higher.

    Why can't they let the poor critters rest in their cages, instead of running them around. Oh the inhumanity.
     
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    Yup. I'll have to pay more for veal.
     
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    Since animals don't know they are going to die...yeah, that's all they are worried about at the moment.
     
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    How are they treating them like humans? Did they buy them new wardrobes, provide condos and jobs to them?
     
  12. Joe

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    I was thinking about the first sentence in this post of-
    PETA actually did something constructive in this instance.

    I was thinking of chickens only, but agree the other animals may not know. We raised chickens They KNOW when they are placed in cages something bad is going to happen. They freak. If you all have seen the footage on tv of how small these chicken cages are, they pretty much can't stretch a leg.

    I would also like to add that usually when any animal is treated inhumanely, it effects our health, or effects us in a negative way through taste.

    Remember as kids (if you are my age or older) how good the eggs used to taste? They don't taste as good where we live. Our chicken eggs were so tasty! Before that, I didn't care for eggs. Notice all the eggs from the store are perfect shape? That's not natural.
    I believe this happens from drugs.
    Free roaming chickens who eat off of the ground and are fed their daily chicken scratch produce the best eggs.
    The meat you buy in the store is pumped full of drugs such as hormones which cause the cow to grow. . If you're going to go organic, go for the meat before the veges. Most people eat more meat. The veges don't contain half as much pesticides and drugs as meat. In fact, I believe it's these chemicals which are making everyone fat.

    If I want drugs, I'll pick my own and enjoy myself. And that won't happen either.
    Fish and chicken are safer. We frequently eat tuna and wild salmon (about 3 x per week).

    I'll stop preaching now :)


    Here is a link with pictures. One is of a free roaming chicken egg yoke compared to the other. It also shows chickens in cages.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken
     
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    I did not know we were talking about ME. I thought we were talking about food. I do not want to be killed at all. Peda is a joke there are more things to worry about than is a chicken being treated wrong. What do you think peda would have said about the sacrifices made in the Old Testament?
     
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    That was a much different time in the development of civilization and, thankfully, is no longer relevant for God's people.
     
  15. Joe

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    Neither did I. I asked you a question though
    I thought we were talking about chickens. You must be hungry. Want a drumstick?
    You and the chickens have something in common
    PETA is not a joke, it's an organization which protects God's creatures from being abused unnecessarily. In doing so, it keeps us healthier.

    I agree there are more important things to worry about.

    Btw, I really like your Avatar :)!
     
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    These are funny, especially the second one. :laugh: I imagined a chicken on the dinner table eating with our family.
     
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    I was asked I had a problem with treating animals humanely. Treating animals like humans is silly.
     
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    That's not what the word means (bold text my emphasis):

    Main Entry: hu·mane
    Pronunciation: hyü-'mAn, yü-
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Middle English humain
    1 : marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals
    2 : characterized by or tending to broad humanistic culture : [SIZE=-1]HUMANISTIC[/SIZE] <humane studies>

    Ever heard of the Humane Society? It doesn't treat humans, nor animals like humans.
     
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