I used to listen a lot to Harold Camping UNTIL he started to shout "LEAVE THE CHURCHES !! LEAVE THE CHURCHES !! THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS LEFT THE CHURCHES, SO WHY DON'T YOU ?" What do y'all think ? His thesis is that the visible body/ies of Christ composed of both the saved and the unsaved, the elect and the unelect, have been so corrupted in doctrine, practice and belief at this point of time because Satan is the one ruling in the church/es, with permission from God or at least passive permission from the Almighty. And that all these events that are happening right now is part of the great tribulation which will culminate in the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ and the last judgment. Also, that right now, the "latter rain" spoken of in the Bible is taking place which is the sending forth of the gospel thru individuals who have left the church and congregate simply as fellowships who have pooled their resources together so that they can preach the gospel and thus help God create the environment whereby He will be able to call, regenerate and save His elect, which environment is one of being "under the hearing of the Word of God." And guess who is in the forefront of the latter rain, doing all that is necessary to reach God's people ? Family Radio, who else. So, what do y'all think ? I hope this is the proper forum for this topic, if not, then, let the moderators take it elsewhere.