HARRY POTTER SHOULD BE OUT!

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  1. 4-christ

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    This bothers me they let Harry Potter movies to be showen in my school but they will not let the left behind movie be showen in school. Why is that just because its a christian movie it still should be showen in school. I love jesus so much!
     
  2. Ben W

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    I think that they are making another Harry Potter film.

    John Ankerberg has done quite alot of research on Harry Potter and looking at satanic symbolism in it. Makes for quite interesting reading, check it out at -

    http://www.ankerberg.com/
     
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    Left Behind is as much fiction as is Harry Potter and yes, it is because it is a movie with a christian message that is it not allowed.
     
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    Yes, I would agree with the above post about Left Behind. I, for one, am glad they don't show it in schools. As for Harry Potter I think it has been blown out of proportion. I watched the movies and so do many in my Hard-core Reformed Baptist Church. I heard recently that J.K. Rowling is a member of the Church of Scotland and that her fav author is C.S. Lewis. If it all comes out that Harry Potter is a type of allegory like C.S. Lewis books are (remember he used magic-type themes as well in his books), then Christians are going to look mighty stupid when they want to support them. Also, you can check out some recently published books about the series by Christian authors who claim that Harry Potter literally means "Son of the Potter," that his birth narrative is remotely symbolic, and that the Latin phrases used by Harry and others when 'spells' are cast are common phrases found in Augustine and other Christian authors. I am not sure what the book is called, but one which was released last year has made a significant impact on how many are viewing the series. I think it is by the same guy who did "Finding God in the Lord of the Rings." I may be wrong. If you do a google search you will likely come up with it.

    D.R.
     
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    Harry Potter deals with witchcraft real or not (IMO some of it is real) a school cannot show one and refuse to show another that is decimation.
     
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    What is of concern to me is what John Ankerberg has to say about actual role playing of Satanism. If people are going to allow their kids to have Harry Potter materials, it is not all that unreasonable to consider what theologically sound teachers have to say on the subject.
     
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    What? :confused:
     
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    What? :confused: </font>[/QUOTE]What I mean is that when the author did research for the movie she put some things in the movie that come directly from witchcraft.Also just noticed I meant discrimination.
     
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    The problem I found with Harry Potter was the fact that the "means justifies the ends". There was a great blurring of clear right and wrong. I will not support any material which has "normal people" becoming wizards and those who are not wizards being demeaned and belittled. As for Rowlings religious preference....that does not mean what this author writes should be accepted. The Scripture clearly teaches that be biggest dangers come from within.
     
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    If I were you, I'd be more upset that they aren't teaching you how to spell or use proper grammer.
     
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    I think it would depend on why they're shown. My daughter's high school literature class has shown both the first Harry Potter and Left Behind in class, since it's a literature class and they're both based on contemporary literature.
     
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    Sorry, that ain't so. The only thing that comes close to that is that there's the name of one histprical figure in it (Nicholas Flamel was a real person who speant his life trying to make gold out of base metals). That's pretty much the extent of the "realism". I have yet to find any real quiddich game, or for that matter find any real wiccan references to flying on broomsticks.

    Anyway, this is a side topic to the issue at hand, which is the showing of movies in class. HP was a good movie. Left Behind stunk. My daughter's literature class showed both at different times, since they were both examples of contemporary literature, and both works of FICTION.
     
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    I agree John, I read the first Harry Potter book myself and did not find anything offensive in it.
     
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    One of the problems is simply showing any lengthy movie. Harry Potter is a 3 hour movie. Left Behind is 90 min to 2 hours. I don't remember. To show those two in entirety would take up 5-7 days of class time. My oldest is a senior, and I would be irritated if a lot of class time was taken up with either one, instead of actual instruction.

    I remember being a substitute teacher in a high school German class for a day. I saw the first 40 minutes of The Sound of Music five times that day. :rolleyes:

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    Maybe I am missing your point, but are you "for" Harry Potter or "against" Harry Potter?

    Maybe I just can't read today for some reason. (or at least understand what I read.) ;)
     
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    I believe Harry Potter (for now at least) is amoral. People have jumped on the author and she has stated that she does not practice witchcraft or encourage others to do the same. It is a fantasy story. I know of no kids who want to do witchcraft as a result. Do you know anyone who wanted to be a witch after The Wizard of Oz came out? So I would rather be neutral until all facts are known. I am hoping that it is true that she is using these books as a type of Christian allegory. I will say that I have seen the movies (though I don't read fiction unless it is C.S. Lewis) and I enjoyed them and felt no demonic forces around me as a result.

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    Go to any christian book store a get the book Harry Potter it will give you some facts most people dont know.
     
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    Originally posted by Phillip:

    Isn't the Harry Potter series related to a druid tradition, or am I in the same boat as Phillip, btw, Phillip, how are you doing lately, haven't had anyone to argue with and having withdrawals, my wife won't argue, I messed up and bought her some new cast iron skillets, can't argue with her no more, no more, no more [​IMG] [​IMG] :D

    God Bless All,
    Even Harry Potter, hey, I have seen that one [​IMG]
     
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    While I see no problem with children seeing Harry Potter or any fantasy movie made for children, I can see no valid reason to show this movie in a classroom setting on my tax dollars. Kids who want to watch Star Trek or any other fantasy movie should do it at home. There is no educational value in the Potter films or even the Left Behind film, none. Don't waste my tax dollars on such films. BTW "Left Behind" bored me to death, bad acting and poor directing/photography. I couldn't even sit to the end.

    But the Passion of Christ is a movie worthy of study in a classroom setting. I know that just because of the Christianity angle, it won't be shown in most schools, but I think over time it will become a classic film allowed in the classroom.
     
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    I really hope you are wrong. Although I agree with you on the other movies.

    Bro. Dallas
     

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