Has God Reached the Point of Complete DISGUST with Us?

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  1. righteousdude2

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    I have always loved the teaching in Romans, especially Chapter 1:18-32. It would seem that, while this teaching is more for the church in Rome, prior to the fall of Rome, that it may also be applicable to today's society as well as the end of time.

    What are your thoughts on these selected verses and the section, from verses 18-32? Do you believe that God is close to wiping his hands of this world, its numerous societies, our many cultures, and more importantly, is our nation within the parameters of being "left behind?"

    Romans 1:18-But God's angry displeasure erupts as acts of human mistrust and wrongdoing and lying accumulate, as people try to put a shroud over truth....24-So God said, in effect, "If that's what you want, that's what you get." 28-Since they didn't bother to acknowledge God, God quit bothering them and let them run loose.

    Select Scripture from Book to Romans from the Message Bible
     
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    I would say God is totally disgusted with America. It is one thing for a nation or its citizens to sin, all do and fall short of the glory of God. It is quite another thing to make sin the law of the land, and put our official stamp on it. It seems to me this is like rubbing God's nose in it. When it is lawful to take the life of an innocent child as a birth control device, or marry the same gender in an ever increasing number of states, then we are on our way out.

    To top this off, we now have two Presidential candidates that condone, support, and promote such practices. There is no choice for the Christian.
     
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    Jesus said in the end the world would mimic Sodom & Gomorah and be like the days leading up to the flood. Europe has been this was for some time now, and the last few decades the west has followed suit. Officially the world is in such a condition that has been prophecied. Come Lord Jesus!
     
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    Maranatha!!!

    Amen! :praying::praying::praying:
     
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    I don't think America matters as much to God as America thinks it matters to God.
     
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    No I don't think that He is wiping His hands of the world. I think that more likely He is writing Ichabod on the church. The world has always been corrupted, but now so is the church.

    The church denounces the commands as legalism, and the people love it. Sin runs rampant in the church with little to no church discipline and the people claim abundance of grace.
    The church loves the sayings of men above the teachings of God. Men say, we all sin every day, God says go and sin no more, men say we are all sinners, God says we are saints(if we have been saved), men say no one is perfect, God says be ye perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect, men say no one can keep the commandments, God says if you love keep my commandments, men say ask Jesus into your heart (pray a prayer) and be saved, God says repentance towards God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ saves, men say Christians can backslide into the daily practice of sin, God says do not be deceived as no one who is born of God practices sin.

    So is God angry, yes I think He is, but the focus of that anger may come to a surprise to many.

    Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
    On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
    And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

    So I don't think that the world has any greater need for fear then it ever did. However the church had better wake up and begin to fear.
     
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    An interesting question: One I will find myself in a minority with because I would say.......well...NO!

    (that is at least if it is a comparison game)
    Here's why:
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    God is already (in one sense) completely disgusted with any and all sin and all his sinners, inasmuch as he is 100% Holy and perfect, so naturally, in that respect he is

    BUT....
    In the comparison sense:
    As an amateur student of history, I am convinced of this.....Many societies (even our own) i.e. America, have been FAR, FAR, FAR....more depraved than the present one...
    Consider Sodom and Gomorrah, prior to God's reaching the point where he insisted on utterly destroying them...They were SO full of homosexuality, that no one....no one...in the city took up Lot's offer of his two daughters...that is a LOT...of homosexuality, also, in BOTH cities combined....there was not even 10 righteous to be found there....10

    If we consider the Church or Churches:
    the Corinthians were getting drunk at the Lord's Supper, (obviously, they didn't realize Paul specifically commanded them to use Welches :rolleyes:)
    Men were sleeping with their Father's wife....and it was public knowledge, they were following personallity cults...Paul, Apollos, Christ etc...they (albeit wealthy) were stingy with their money towards Paul and other local churches...Did God write Ichabod? No, not even then....

    If we look at history, even the halcyon days of Victorian perfection and the halcyon days of the 1950's that mommy and daddy claimed were the utter essence of perfection were LOADED with wickedness and wrongdoing...
    We exchanged systemic racism with systemic abortion....We exchanged systemic slavery with systemic acceptance of homosexuality...and we exchanged systemic warmongering (with unjust purposes) for systemic divorce and remarriage....we just exchanged one group of sins for another.
     
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    I'm so sick of this crap. If God wasn't sick of us when we were killing the British over taxes, slaughtering Native American image-bearers in the name of Manifest Destiny, and doing unspeakable evil to African people, why would he be sick of us now?

    American Christians are not persecuted in any sense of the word. If there's a problem, it's with the Church.
     
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    All you have proven is men have been sinful for years. That is biblical. It is also biblical that God abhors sin, and He always have. He was disgusted with it after The Fall, just before the flood, when He sent Israel into exile, when He sacrificed His Son to redeem His children, when Muslims invaded Europe to start the Crusades, during the Holocaust, 9/11 and today.

    Sinful men sin and that has always disgusted God.
     
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    I agree that God hates sin. I'm just making a point here.
     
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    You guys bring up a good point. For instance, the gays use the Greek empire and other civilizations that condoned homosexuality as the historical reason why we should accept it.

    What they fail to mention is that all of those past empires that condoned it were destroyed.

    Is that where we are headed?

    John
     
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    I would think that if God had reached a "Point of Complete DISGUST" we would not be here.
     
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    And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his butt.
     
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    I really would not know, but I am sure you have such things figured out.
     
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    Now there is the understatement of the year.
     
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    Of course you do not know. Now get into the book!
     
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    We're still here aren't we? If God had reached the end of His patience as He did when He destroyed all but 8 people with a flood and as He did with Sodom and Gommorra (Sp?), He would have destroyed this world and us before now.

    He is long suffering and very patient, but those two examples show that even God's patience has a limit.
     
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    Absolutely! :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     

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