I hesitate to even ask this because I believe so many will answer what I am NOT asking, so please read and then answer carefully. I was discussing the thread about the message possibly having changed with dh at lunch. In his opinion, part of the problem is that the church has sissified. He made it plain he was not talking about women's ordination, women's role in the church, or about women at all. And he made it plain that a feminine woman or girl is definitely not sissified. And he is not talking contemporary services vs traditional, dispy vs reformed, or those issues we often focus on. Best he could explain it is take three little boys on a playground. One is all blood and guts and bandaids, and nobody would think of calling him a sissy. One is all scientific inquiry, logical thinking, really bookish, but nobody would think of calling him a sissy. One, however, may or may not be good at football and may or may not be bookish but he is definitely sissified. Scared of his own shadow. Ready to run if anyone says boo. Will do what anyone tells him to do because he is deathly afraid if he doesn't they might DO SOMETHING, although he really has no idea what they might do that would hurt him. So we toss it out to you all to answer: do you believe Baptist churches in your particular area are sissified? I'll start--taking our larger region which includes 4 churches, I would say 3 are sissified and 1 is not.