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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Magnetic Poles, Jun 12, 2008.
Canadian news magazine, Macleans, on trial for tone of article about Islam.
Mark Steyn is also on trial in Canada.
You can not have free speech and ban hate speech. You have just abolished any connotation of freedom when you become intolerant of opposing voices.
Those that want to ban hate speech still want the freedom to spew their own. This is especially true in islamic countries in their mosques. They come to the West and use our freedoms against us. Try going to Saudi Arabia and just speaking about Jesus Christ (nothing against islam) and see what happens. Or in this case, it would be interesting to know what is preached in Canadian mosques. Wouldn't surprise me if it is "hate speech." All the rights for them (muslims), none for us (dhimmi/infidel) mentality.
LE please don't derail this into another anti-muslim thread. The subject is hate speech vs. free speech.
I agree with you Mel, but where does one draw the line. Is Fred Phelps' hatemongers within their rights to picket funerals of soldiers with signs like "Thank God for IEDs"?
If phelps wants to look idiotic with signs like this more power to him. But when they disturb the peace by harrassing people at funerals then it should have some limits.
The meaning of Hate speech is tied in to encouraging the harm of someone else...
If I say, "According to how I interpret the Bible, Homosexuals are going to Hell." That is not hate speech...
But if I say, "We need to round up all homosexuals, and send them to Hell" That is hate speech because I am encouraging people to harm others.
I think this is proabably true. However, it is important to draw a clear distinction between what American law and culture allow and encourage and what the Scriptures teach. These can line up in some cases, but do not in others.
I think it is manifestly clear that "free speech", at least as construed by most Americans and other westerners, is not a value that is promoted in the Scriptures.
Which is yet another reason I am thankful for the separation of church and state.