Hate vs Disagreement

In another thread that has been closed I said this, and didn't get a chance to respond to your statement.

First things first, I don't and have never "swooned" over Obama... Please be sure to keep up with MY stance before you make such off the top statements...

It is true God is your Judge, but your actions, tone and posts show a lot about you. It might not be hate, but it sure is brewing....

Then dislike the pratices of those people... Not everyone that likes Obama is "worshipping" him.

I happen to agree with you, but I also didn;t like it when Bush did it. Did you mention even once about the $750 Billion Bush wanted and got?

Refer to the question above... When it was Bush's game, why didn't you beat your drum then?

This started long before Obama came into office... We had a massive debt before hand... why the need to cry about it now? Where were you two years ago?

Again, I agree with you. I don't like his policies at all on this, but that won't make me hate him... oh, that's right you don't 'hate' him...

Refer again to the response above... Of course, if the GOP had put someone up that was *really* better for this country, then people like myself wouldn't have voted third party...

Being from that background, I don't really hate or care what the laws are. The Holy Spirit will convict people's hearts. The law isn't the thing we should focus on, it's the preaching and teaching of the Word and let the Holy Spirit go it's job.

You see it that way, I see it that he won, he is my President, and I know God is in control. Why second guess God, let's see what he has in store for us.

Your word is things.... I agree with you, it's the things we should be concerned with, not the person... One can disagree with policies without hating the person..

 

I am not talking about this one thread in and of itself. I am looking at the threads posted by this user for some time now... It adds up in my mind to hate or at the very least the brewing of hate...

Also, You can't use the "any criticism of Obama..." approach since I don't like a lot of his policies.

I see a man (several people on this forum) that brew of hate for Obama and not his policies. I believe that's a bad place to be and called it like I see it so it is legitimate even if you say it isn't.

 

And in with that stance you have, you can see from your posts that you don't agree with his policies, but it doesn't come across as hate.

In other user's posts it just reaks of hate of the man and his policies. They can claim they don't hate him, but their actions/posts sure do speak louder than anything....

 

Excellent example Jim,

I saw that thread you started, it was meant to be a good thread, but some users let their hate get the best of them and the thread turned south quickly.

Whatever happen to the trust we are to have in God. What happened to the knowledge that God sets up Kings and brings them down?

I guess the root question is do we believe God is in control or not. If he is, then Obama is who we're suppose to have. If we don't believe God is in control, then I think we would spend less time on the BB and more time in the Bible.

Thanks for the great example of what I was talking about.

 

I see some people are willing to see that they may have crossed the line and others, well....

A word or two? Imply? You do more than stand against the policies. There are many of us here on this board that do that, without the hate attached to it.

It doesn't matter that you're not willing to engage in a discussion that your post may have crossed the line, but it is open for the general public to see.

 

You may believe that if you will, but my posts and nature on this board will prove otherwise.

I posted started this thread because the thread we were in got closed. If I didn't care for you like a brother in Christ than I wouldn't care what or how you presented yourself.

My concern is we have non believers and lurkers here on this board and our actions, and posts speak louder than we think at times. Politics get the best of us at times and we all say and do things we might not even notice.

I called it the way I saw it and you have taken offense to it. There is nothing more I can do.

You say I started the hate but that just isn't true. Your statement is only a way of deferring it from yourself back to me.

Hum.. a nice attempt at humor... It's a start I suppose... between that and prayer maybe you will come around. :thumbsup:

 

Your mind is to cloudy you can't even see what I am talking about..

Do you think I am a liberal?

That's quite a mouth full... the only problem is again your mind is so cloudy you can't even see that I don't support Obama or abortion.

I DO however support the notion that someone like yourself can get so tied up in politics that is takes you down the road of hate without you really understanding it.

For you to think I am a liberal or I support Obama or abortion is clearly an example of how you can't see the forest for the trees.

I will pray for you though, not to become more liberal or to approve of Obama or abortion, but to have a clear mind and understand there is a different between disagreeing with a policy and the hate of a man.

 

He may not have "assigned" it directly to me, but he sure attempted to make a case that I was trying to get him to "come around to...." to those views.

In other words, he made it seem like I was trying to pull him in a direct I was already in, which I won't and I am not.

I can see that this isn't going to go anywhere, so it's best left alone I suppose. I got concerned by the hate I was reading into it.

I will drop this, but will continue to pray.

 

Like my last post, I said I will drop it. It wasn't "targeted" at you, it's just a pattern I have seen from you.

You state you don't hate our POTUS and I will take that at your word. I never claimed you stated it as much, it was the tone of your posts I was asking about.

Just keep in mind that many people lurk and read this board and we should always be conscience of what we say and how we say it. I have found myself looking at some of my posts and thinking I shouldn't have said that, or I should have worded it differently. In those cases I would want someone to call me on it and have me think about it, no matter what the outcome after the thought process, but that's just me.