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Hating Holiness

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Feb 20, 2009.

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  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    I saw something in the mall the other day that nearly turned my stomach. An item for sale caught my attention as I passed by a clothing store, accompanied by my wife. For teens, it is, and always has been, at least for as long as I’ve been alive, chic to wear clothes that are, shall we say, shocking to adults. That’s what rebellion is all about. Kids obviously love it because it not only challenges societal standards and authority but gets them the attention and admiration of peers, as well. Shop owners love it simply because it makes the register ring. Nevertheless, there, in that little boutique, written across the front of a brightly colored T-shirt, in bold print, was the proud proclamation: “Jesus is my homeboy”

    My initial thought was that some anti-Christian group or organization was merely mocking God for moolah. Then I realized it was really the handiwork of hipsters hocking God for hoopla and in the process, degrading the Divine to the level of street urchin in some opportunistic attempt to alter the public’s perception of the Prince of Peace into someone not so sacred, serious or sin conscious. But, my question is, “What’s the difference?” Aren’t they both trivializing God and therefore equally blasphemous?

    I don’t know about you, but even under grace, the very thought of coming face to face with the Alpha and the Omega is more than a little unsettling. In fact, I’ve yet to find anyone in scripture who wasn’t dramatically affected in some way by the mere presence of God. Scripture tells us that even the Earth trembles before Him.

    But, who’s afraid of Jesus the Homey? No one, I’m sure. Serving a synthetic savior is a snap; which is why the church growth movement exists today – to change your perception of God, His Son, His Word, His church and its mission – to make each of them more desirable and appealing to the flesh – resulting in, of course, expeditious church growth.

    You see, the flesh hates holiness and so do those who have dedicated their lives to making the church more like the world. Frankly, holiness is hard on the numbers and has a way of annoying the ambitious and offending the obscene. But, this is the new evangelism, my friends. This is the purpose and passion of the church growth movement – to dispel all fear of God and make Jesus our “homeboy.”

    “The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.” – Proverbs 8:13


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    #1 Revmitchell, Feb 20, 2009
  2. matt wade

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    So says a guy with 5 advertisements surrounding his article!

    The writer has said that the use of "homeboy" changes the perception of Jesus "into someone not so sacred, serious or sin conscious." He also says, "But, who’s afraid of Jesus the Homey?".

    Homeboy (not that I use the word) is common slang for "friend". Would there be any issues if this shirt said "Jesus is my friend"? Following the writer's logic, the word "friend" would also not instill fear into people.

    I don't have a problem with "Jesus is my homeboy". If it helps the sort of kids that use the word "homeboy" come to know Jesus as their Lord and Savior then I'm all for it.
     
    #2 matt wade, Feb 20, 2009
  3. tinytim

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    Jesus said we can call him friend... and he calls us friends...

    Why should I be scared of my best friend...

    "homie" or "homeboy" is just urban for "best friend"

    While I would never use it.. and it is somewhat shocking at first to this rural white boy.. I won't condemn it...

    Besides, does anybody even urbanites still use "homie" anymore...
    That is so last century~!!! lol
     
    #3 tinytim, Feb 20, 2009
  4. Amy.G

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    Tim, why would you never use it?
     
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  5. Thinkingstuff

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    Homey Don't play dat.

    Just for those of you who do not get the inferance. I'm using a phrase made popular by the comedy show In living Color whereby a narsasistic clown named Homey says repeatedly: "homey don't play dat" which usually ends with the clown character hitting another character. The purpose in my post of using this phrase is two fold. first and primarily for the humorous content. Secondly for the veild attempt at saying Jesus would not approve of being a "homeboy" in the urban sence of the word which usually infers friend or aquantance by way of gang membership. Though would the Phrase Jesus is my Peep be just as offensive? Probably.

    It's never as funny when you explain it.
     
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  6. EdSutton

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    You might want to count again. You missed one on the page (one at the top, one at the bottom, two on each side), plus the donation site/page (in the center of the page, just so's you won't overlook it, I guess) where you will find "Four Ways to Donate:" (actually five, considering one 'option' offered is either a check or a money order). I wonder if cash is considered acceptable, for it is not mentioned?? :rolleyes:

    Oh yeah- (since you might forget) don't forget this: "Remember, all Books and/or DVDs sales help us."

    (Don't he know that in addition to the some 75 books and 40 DVDs, that here one can link to, he somehow forgot to mention the Bumper Stickers, shirts, and caps??) They are here! On this page!

    http://www.newswithviewsstore.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=NWVS&Category_Code=TS

    :rolleyes:

    :tear:

    (Your choice for which 'smilie' is appropriate.)

    Ed
     
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  7. Aaron

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    They can't hate what they don't know, Rev.
     
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  8. Steven2006

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    If you passed a group of young people singing "What a friend we have in Jesus" would you chastise them?
     
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  9. matt wade

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    Some here would. Especially if they had any rhythm.
     
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  10. tinytim

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    That's just not the way I talk boo.:smilewinkgrin:
     
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  11. OldRegular

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    Unfortunately some carry the "Jesus is my friend" too far and forget that Jesus is GOD.
     
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  12. saturneptune

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    Any slang associated with God's name is something I choose to stay away from. One of commandments is not taking the Lord's name in vein. While each and every phrase may not cross that line, if it bothers me, I stay away from it. It is like the phrase years ago "the old man upstairs" or jokes involving the Lord.

    As Tim said, I do not understand the new language enough to know for sure, but for me, will stay away from it. Having said that, I will tell you what I like less than that T-shirt, and that is a "holier than thou" attitude.
     
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  13. THEOLDMAN

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    Great post !:thumbs:
     
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    Amen !!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  15. Aaron

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    That's right. They have a casual, cursory knowledge of Him. They think He is honored by their giving Him their own vulgar titles.
     
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  16. Amy.G

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    Since I would never address Jesus as "home boy" in prayer, I would also not wear a t-shirt that addressed Him that way either.

    I also will not call Him dude or bud, which are common names in the south for friends.
     
    #16 Amy.G, Feb 20, 2009
  17. matt wade

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    The point isn't whether we personally would use the term homeboy. I would never use it either. But, for a section of our population, homeboy means simply "friend" and has no negative connotations. Calling someone their "homeboy" doesn't belittle them, in fact for those that use the term it is a term of endearment and respect.

    I consider it a different language. Should I be upset that anyone calls Jesus friend in their own language?
     
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  18. tinytim

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    What about "amigo?"
     
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