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Have the SBC, ABC, and NBCs Ever Held a Joint Convention?

Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by Jamal5000, Jul 19, 2003.

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  1. Jamal5000

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    I realize that the Southern Baptist Convention, American Baptist Convention, and National Baptist Conventions (All three of them) hold distinct identities in the world today...


    ...but did all three bodies of baptists ever meet in a joint ecumenical session to discuss points of agreement or to pursue some joint initiatives?

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  2. Major B

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    When the Baptists in the South formed the SBC in 1845, there was no National Baptist Convention; most of the ancestors of the future NBC members were slaves then.

    There was a Triennial Convention which organized common mission activities, and the Southern Baptists left and formed their own convention because the TC voted that no slaveholder could be a missionary. (It is interesting, I think, that (a) no slave holder had ever wanted to be a missionary and (b) no slave holder ever became one later on!)

    The Northern Baptists organized slowly and went through several phases of defections as they became more liberal (the Conservative Baptists and the GARBC are two examples).

    Having said all the above, there are NBC churches that hold dual membership in the SBC and the NBC, and I presume the same relationship exists with some NBC churches and the ABC.

    And who said Baptists were not an organized religion? Oh, I think it was me.
     
    #2 Major B, Jul 21, 2003
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    First Baptist in Washington, D.C., holds affiliations with ABC-USA, Alliance of Baptists, CBF and SBC.

    And the District of Columbia Baptist Convention is affiliatedwith both the SBC and ABC-USA, as well Progressive National Baptist Convention.
     
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    First Baptist in Washington, D.C., holds affiliations with ABC-USA, Alliance of Baptists, CBF and SBC.

    And the District of Columbia Baptist Convention is affiliatedwith both the SBC and ABC-USA, as well Progressive National Baptist Convention.     </font>[/QUOTE]We ARE a confusing lot... [​IMG]
     
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    And there are even a handful of SBC churches that are also ABC! Third Baptist in St. Louis held dual ABC/SBC standing until recently (they may still be for all I know); and the entire Washington DC association is dual SBC/ABC.
     
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    The District of Columbia Baptist Convention is triply aligned: SBC, ABC-USA and Progressive National Baptist Convention.
     
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    To answer your question. NO.
     
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  8. Major B

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    How unusual that a thread that was dead for two years should be resurrected...
     
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    For what is is worth, when I was stationed in Germany, I attended a Baptist retreat at the US Military rec area. It was jointly sponsored by the SBC adn ABC. Two great speakers! The preacher was from the Home Mission Board of the SBC, and the Bible teacher was a missionary to an Iron Curtian Country under the ABC mission Board.
    I was speaking to a lady who said she really enjoyed the preacer and teacher, even though she was GARBC. Well, I fully aggred with her, and I was also GARBC. ( I was informed that many of GARBC at the time went to the NAE retreat)
     
    #9 Salty, Dec 4, 2005
  10. Major B

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    Baptists of similar theological viewpoints often work together across denominational lines. Our (SBC) liberals work with liberals from other groups, and Bible-believers from other groups (or even independents) will work with us. W.A. Criswell had John MacArthur preach at conferences. There is a pastors' conference coming up in Louisville in April 2006 with John Piper (Baptist General Conference), John MacArthur (baptistic but not officially), Al Mohler (president of the SBCs flagship seminary), and R.C. Sproul (conservative Presbyterian), along with some other guys who are mostly Baptist.

    Who said conservatives are boring?
     
    #10 Major B, Dec 4, 2005
  11. Rookiepastor

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    Would you share the details of this conference... I would be interested in attending this one...

    Thanks
     
    #11 Rookiepastor, Dec 4, 2005
  12. John I Morris

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    Well the 2006 Conference is for the Calvinistic Baptist, as all of the above mentioned speakers believe that one is pre-selected for heaven or hell. And I must say that I am not in agreement with their opinion.
     
    #12 John I Morris, Dec 5, 2005
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    Would you share the details of this conference... I would be interested in attending this one...

    Thanks     </font>[/QUOTE]I think he's talking about "Together for the Gospel". You can find the link for it at www.9marks.org
     
    #13 hamricba, Dec 5, 2005
  14. Rookiepastor

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    Hamricba

    Thanks for the link.

    I think it would be interesting to hear a couple of them in person.

    God Bless
     
    #14 Rookiepastor, Dec 5, 2005
  15. Major B

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    Pretty simplistic statement. The organization they represent has nine marks of what a church should be.

    1. Expositional Preaching
    2. Biblical Theology
    3. Biblical Understanding of the Good News
    4. Biblical Understanding of Conversion
    5. Biblical Understanding of Evangelism
    6. Biblical Understanding of Membership
    7. Biblical Church Discipline
    8. Promotion of Christian Discipleship and Growth
    9. Biblical Understanding of Leadership


    As for the doctrines of Grace, there are certainly lots of things to talk about with reference to understanding the mysteries of Grace, but if one says, "I don't believe in election," or "I don't believe in predestination," that is equivalent to saying they don't believe in the Bible.

    W.A. Criswell was certainly not a five-pointer, but he had a lot of respect for the doctrines that are biblical and were taught by every single founder of the SBC.
     
    #15 Major B, Dec 5, 2005
  16. Hardsheller

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    Major B,

    W.A. Criswell, Pastor of FBC, Dallas, Texas, President of the SBC. Grandfather of the Conservative Resurgence

    "..I am a Calvinist."

    From a sermon entitled "The Doctrine of Predestination" preached 11/20/55.

    Read the sermon here."The Doctrine of Predestination"
     
    #16 Hardsheller, Dec 6, 2005
  17. Major B

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    I did not say he was not a calvinist at all, I said that he was not a five-pointer.
     
    #17 Major B, Dec 6, 2005
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