Have times changed much?

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  1. Bob Alkire

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    Have times changed much? A very nice neighbor of mine and I was talking, she ask why Christians aren’t more tolerance? I said maybe we see things different. Then I told her about the Catacombs and what we have learned about them.
    During the first century, there was tremendous conflict between the young Church and the
    Roman Empire. The marked characteristic of the empire was tolerance; and the most notable
    characteristics of the Christian church were its love and benevolence. So, you would think the
    two would have gotten along well together. They didn’t, because the Christians swore
    allegiance to Jesus Christ as Lord of the lives, and everything else was expected to be subservient to Him. Of course the Romans didn’t care for this.
    Also, the church had high standards for moral conduct, and they called for conformity to these
    standards. They said, we are to try to conform to Christ’s way of life. The church condemned the world and sought to save it, but from the world there came contempt and aversion, followed by persecution.
    If crops failed, if the Tiber river overflowed, if plagues came, the cry was “Send the Christians to the lions!” Yet the Christians were kind to all who were in trouble, stayed and nursed the sick during the plague when others fled, and lived highly moral lives. The Catacombs became their
    place of safe retreat. They came to live there, to worship there, and were buried there, by the tens
    of thousands
    About six million people are buried in about sixty Catacombs, fifty-four of which are Christian, and six of which are Jewish.
    She smiled and said not much has changed!!! She said, “I’m all for tolerance but one should keep their faith at home and at their place of worship, not out in the world.”
     
  2. pinoybaptist

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    Except when like you pointed out, tragedy strikes and then most of the world asks : where are the loving, faith-preaching, compassionate Christians ?
     
  3. Bob Alkire

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    So true. They want to see and some need to derive benefits from Christian's social works and not hear about our beliefs and faith.
     
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    That seems strangely unbiblical.
     
  5. Tom Butler

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    When Peter and John gave healing to the lame man in the temple in Acts 3, the Sanhedrin warned them to quit preaching about Jesus. Their response was in Acts 4:20 "We cannot but speak of the things we have seen and heard."

    In other words, we don't have a choice. We can't help it. We are under a compulsion to tell what we've seen and heard.
     
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    So we should leave Jesus at home when we go out into the world so as not to offend anyone? "Sorry, Jesus, you have to stay here. I wouldn't want You offending anyone and embarrassing me."

    Yes, the world cries "Tolerance" while being intolerant of God, His written word, the Living Word, and Christians. Yet, we are called intolerant and unloving because we try to live as Jesus commands us to live, and we call sin what God calls it--SIN.
     
  7. Bob Alkire

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    You are correct.

    I'm with you all!
     
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    I'm here with you too. :thumbs:
     
  9. Brother Shane

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    Times have changed drastically from what I can scoop up from my ancestors. I do not believe that we can imagine what the world was like one-hundred years ago. You hear people in society talk in such a manner... "I don't know what teenagers these days would do without their cell phones and computers and all this technology" -- oblivious to the real problem. I don't think "technology" should be the center point.

    As of right now, activist judges are in a very successful progress of defining "marriage" between two men and two women... legal and recognized! Public schools are corrupt to the core -- from the central office to the desk of school teachers that are molesting their students. Professing Christians are walking inside the church house "half-dressed" and having no respect for the Lord and the people there to worship God. Teenagers are off engaging in sexual behaviour -- and are being given the consequence of out-of-wedlock sexual intercourse -- and then our judges are legalizing MURDER to that baby! So many citizens are driving farther and farther from God and to other "religions". They are teaching "evolution" as part of the curriculum in public schools. And on top of all that, everyday someone is murdered because of drug and alcohol related issues (yet some here would say drinking in "moderation" is acceptable), parents turn against children, children against parents, family's divorce and are "patched up," and the list goes on and on.

    This has all happened very quickly and I can not imagine what will happen in the near future.

    Oh yeah, "what would teenagers do without technology these days?"

    Hebrews 10:25 - "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."
     
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    Things haven't really changed since Cain went his own way

    And Jude's little epistle tells the unchanging story of how the spirit of Cain existed in his day and still exists in our day

    The world does what it does because of what I call "The Spirit of Cain"

    Born again believers do what they do because of what I call "The Spirit of Christ"

    The difference between daylite and dark????!!!!! Christ & Cain
     
  12. Magnetic Poles

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    "I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
    frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
    words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
    respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
    [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC).
     
  13. Cutter

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    That is why the Bible teaches us about things waxing worse and worse, because of the degeneration of every new generation. All of this should be expected by the children of God. We are taught that this is what will happen. Christ is still going to return and by the looks of things it could be any moment.
     
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    I am seriously hoping for Mayflower part 2.

    You know, like fed-up Christians who sail out in search of a new world where they can set up a new colony and a government and society hewn close to Godliness ?

    But I guess that can't happen anymore.

    So I'm just waiting for Jesus' return.

    To take away His children from the presence of sin.
     
  15. Magnetic Poles

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    Sorry, but from what I see, the "sin" will go with them, because it is within them.
     
  16. Magnetic Poles

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    The point is that every generation thinks its young folks are the worst ever, and that civilization won't survive. 'Taint so.
     
  17. Cutter

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    I knew your point, MP and I noticed your quote was from the 8th century. Still the facts remain the same and the the point I made does not change.
     
  18. Lynn the Baptist

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    Brother Shane...I loved your last post..so true,so true........"..Professing Christians are walking inside the church house "half-dressed" and having no respect for the Lord and the people there to worship God. "...And I thought this only happened in our church.......................................I'm not an old-fashioned woman,I'm quite modern,but come on...flip-flops +shorts+skimpy tops....that's what the girls wear that take up the Sunday morning offering at my church.No one says a word...........
     
  19. Joshua Rhodes

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    Wow... that's quite progressive... letting the girls take up the offering in a Baptist church. :thumbs:
     

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