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Discussion in 'Forum for Polls' started by Ben W, Mar 13, 2005.
Ever been on the dole?
No. Neither myself nor my husband.
Neither of us either, my husband's been steadily employed somewhere for the last 24 1/2 years we've been together. And I've enver worked outside of taking care of my house and children, and husband.
I drew benefits for two months back in the early 80's. I was working as a Bi-vocational pastor in Wisconsin and my secular job was with Job Service for the State of Wisconsin. Where you filed for benefits was where I worked so it was an automatic deal.
Thats kind of funny, the unemployment people let you go and then had to pay unemployment instead of letting you work for the money.
makes a lot of sence doesn't it.
Back in 1990 on the Friday before Thanksgiving, we had a shop meeting at 10 am. We were told we were being laid off of our full time (40 hr) job.
On Monday, I went to the Unemployment Office. I was asked if I had any other income. I told them (the truth) I worked for 6 hrs on the weekend at a radio station. I was infomed that since I had a paycheck, I did not qualified for unemployment. I reminded them that I had just lost 90% of my weekly income.
What I should have done (to get the money) was to lie about my small part time income, or to have quit my week end job, before I went for unemployment.
My, what a system
Yep, was unemployed on and off since leaving school until I landed in the cab game 12-13 years ago.
Spent another 6 months on it a couple of years ago when our little idiot Prime Minister brought in his "NEVER-EVER" GST. I did not want to collect that for him so left the cab game and tried to get a real job, however after so many years in the Twilight Zone the real world just couldn't cope with me
in my country, there is no such thing as unemployment benefits. Which i think is a good thing. There's lots of help given to get you employed again, lots of help if you stay employed, but never to give you money for being unemployed. Seeing the abuses of the welfare system in other countries, I'm glad we never fell into that trap.
I too have been a receiver of unemployment/sickness benefits due to a prolonged period of ill health. even so it was a soul destroying and humiliating schmozzle which was obstructive, and hedged about with red tape.
Thank the Lord I recovered my health otherwise I would no doubt be a street person or worse, dead.
Understand that the companies you work for pay a tax to the State for this very purpose. The State unemployment money comes from the companies of the state not the taxpayers. Federal unemployment money is another matter.
Yep but only one check got a job the following month.
"unemployment benefits (dole)"
This is a contradiction. UI (Unemployment is insurance). The dole is charity ...
Why do you pose the question to indicate that those that have been laid off, are receiving charity?
I don't call unemployment benefits the "dole."
People who are really on the "dole" are our elected officials, IMO. One term & they get a hefty sweet pension whether they actually do anything to earn it or not. Now, that's what I call a "dole."
If someone is on unemployment, it is because they were laid off from their job by their employer, who probably shipped their job overseas. Why would that be considered the "dole?"
I suspect the use of the word "dole" reflects cultural (and governmental) differences between the U.S. and Kiwi systems.
From the International Labor Organization:
"The report identifies Australia, Canada, Ireland, Japan, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States as belonging to "medium-level type systems". Fewer of the unemployed in these countries receive benefits and the compensation that is provided is lower than those available in the first tier of countries.
Benefit payments, which the report defines as "net wage replacement rates" range from 23% of wages in New Zealand to 58% in Canada and the United States, among these "medium-level" countries. In contrast, "top level" countries such as Finland and Spain provide 63% and 77% respectively of national average earnings in their unemployment insurance, the report says."
Been many years since I have had to make a claim. Being in construction in a cold weather climate, umemployment insurance is what keeps food on the table for many. And it isnt on the "dole". No more that getting in an auto accident and filing a claim with your insurance company is being on the dole.
RSR ... I have not seen 58% in the US ...
More like 18%
As stated before, the preiums are paid for by the employer, therefore unemployment is a free benefit for the employee. The problem is the employer is required to make this preium. If the system was set up so only voluntary contibutions were to be made by the employee, I wonder how many would sign up.
Normally, unemployment is to be paid only to those were are laid off due to no fault of the employee (reduction in force, ect) As an employer in W Va, I saw fit to fire two empoyees. The owener told me that unless a person murders someone, the state would give unemployment to the individuals. Of course, the more claims by your employees, the higher your preimums.
I had a friend at a radio station who quit her job in Alamamba. She left beacuse her husband accepted a job in Syracuse. This lady thought she should be entitled to unempoyment, beacuse, she should not be required to be seperated from her husband.
I like it the way Sue W mentioned. No unemployment. Simply make it the responsibility of the individual.
Whenever, I was out of work, I never went more than three days without finding a job.