Heaven, Hell and God....

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    ....just how much do you really know? :wavey:

    http://www.christianet.com/bible/heavenhell.htm









    What will be more interesting then the number of question a person gets right and wrong will be the commentary as to the doctrinal stance of this quiz? I'm sure there will be those who will find fault with some of the answers, supportive Scriptures, and the theology or doctrine leading up to the question and its answer.

    Overall, I hope the majority of you enjoy this test, print it out and use it for a Bible Study, Sunday School class or use it to build a series of messages to share with your congregations. It is an excellent test, and I believe it will open the eyes and hearts of lost souls. This is my prayer, and I hope each of you pray for the same response: Saved souls! :praying: :praying: :praying:
     
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    TOO EASY...I got every one of them right.

    So what stance would that make me?

    having a SOLID FOUNDATION which ALL truth is based on?
     
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    Your Score is 96%

    That was copied from my score. I got the question wrong that said there will be a marriage in heaven. I marked true in reference to the Lamb and His bride, the church. The answer talked about no marriage between individuals in heaven.

    The other question I got wrong was that Jesus decended into hell. I did not read the "not" in the question.

    It was a very straight forward test on basics of Christianity.

    Thanks for posting. Hope you understand my reasoning on the two questions.
     
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    Good thinking about us being the Bride and Jesus the groom. I wouldn't have thought of that right off the bat and clicked true, got to look at all sides....nice job.
     
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    I got the question wrong about Jesus in hell because I do not believe that the Bible supports that Jesus went to hell after He died. I disagree with their interpretation of that Scripture.
     
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    Actually, Jesus went to paradise to preach to those who were held captive and then He took them to heaven when He rose again HEB....the other side was Hades of those going to hell...the word hell wasn't used till after His death burial and resurrection. So technically they are wrong.
     
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    So Ann where did Jesus go after He died?

    God forbid you actually agree with me on something, huh?

    LOL
     
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    Why should I answer you when you post like that?

    No, I don't agree with you nor do many orthodox Christians. But you're not going to listen to me anyway since you say that I'm a tool of Satan.
     
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    So you are saying you don't believe that Jesus went to Paradise when the bible says He did?

    He didn't go to heaven or hell...no where else to go...so what say you?

    You are the one who has never been able to talk logically with me...you are the one who always makes thing personal.

    I'm honestly asking where did He go?
     
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    AGAIN GOTQUESTUIONS AGREES WITH ME...WHY BECAUSE OUR FOUNDATION IS SOLID...SO THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME ALSO DISAGREE WITH THEM.

    Nice to know I'm on solid foundation and it doesn't matter what the Nay Sayers say to me on here.

    Question: "Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?"

    Answer: There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. This concept comes primarily from the Apostles' Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.

    In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek word that is used for hell is “hades,” which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

    Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23, 16:18; Luke 10:15, 16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham's bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8-10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20.

    Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10-11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption....Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

    Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ's struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

    When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html#ixzz2VNBL0oYQ
     
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    Where does it say that Jesus went to Paradise? Can you show me the verse that specifically says that?


    Did I say He didn't go to heaven?

    Heaven.
     
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    Why the yelling?

    Is GotQuestions inspired by God? Yes, in this case I disagree with them. I do agree with them on a lot of things but guess what? They're human - and fallable.
     
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    I did but you must have missed it...here it is again. I did this study on my own over 20 years ago, but it is nice to know GOTQUESRIONS has done the work much better than I did.

    Question: "Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?"

    Answer: There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. This concept comes primarily from the Apostles' Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.

    In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek word that is used for hell is “hades,” which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

    Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23, 16:18; Luke 10:15, 16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham's bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8-10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20.

    Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10-11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption....Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

    Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ's struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

    When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html#ixzz2VNBL0oYQ
     
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    Well that would make you WRONG lol..TRUTH is based on a solid foundation...and our foundation is solid. we are not wrong your understanding is...no wonder why you hate me...by the way you haven't given us what you believe so how can you be right when you can't even tell us what you believe...seriously???

    If you are NOT willing to stand for your truth and die for it than it must not be all that true...lol
     
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    Why do you post other's words? You have repeatedly posted the same thing over and over again. Why not use your own words?
     
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    I said what I believe. That Jesus went to heaven.

    If Jesus went to Paradise and freed those who were there, why did He have to preach to them?

    We also see in Revelation 2:7 that Paradise is heaven "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God."

    That word translated as "Paradise" in this verse is the same word as in Luke 23.

    We also find that Paul caught up into Paradise (again the same word as in Luke) in 2 Corinthians 12:4. Was he late? Why would he be caught up into a place that no one was left? Why was there unspeakable things? However, we see historically that this passage is interpreted as Paul going to heaven. Why the sudden change when it's the same Greek word?

    No. I do not believe that Paradise was a waiting room for heaven. I do not believe that Jesus went to this holding place after He died. I do believe that Jesus went to heaven after His death. "It is finished" means that it was done.

    Oh and I do not hate you. I can safely say that there is no one in this world I hate.
     
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    So Jesus LIED to the thief on the cross when He said. "today you will be with me in paradise"
     
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    Another problem with going to heaven is that GOD cannot stand in the presence of SIN...Jesus when He died took all of mankind's sins upon Himself....He himself said he would be in the tomb three days and three nights...not HEAVEN

    He preached the GOOD news...more than likely meaning He told them of His coming and that He fulfilled the law and was now going to take them to heaven to be with Him.

    Sounds pretty simple to me
     
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    Nope. Paradise is heaven. Jesus went to heaven.
     
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    Question: "Where was Jesus for the three days between His death and resurrection?"

    Answer: 1 Peter 3:18-19 states, "For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison." The phrase, "by the Spirit," in verse 18 is exactly the same construction as the phrase, "in the flesh." So it seems best to relate the word "spirit" to the same realm as the word "flesh." The flesh and spirit are Christ's flesh and spirit. The words "made alive by (in) the spirit" point to the fact that Christ's sin-bearing and death brought about the separation of His human spirit from the Father (Matthew 27:46). The contrast is between flesh and spirit, as in Matthew 27:46 and Romans 1:3-4, and not between Christ's flesh and the Holy Spirit. When Christ's atonement for sin was completed, His spirit restored the fellowship which had been broken.

    First Peter 3:18-22 describes a necessary link between Christ's suffering (verse 18) and His glorification (verse 22). Only Peter gives specific information about what happened between these two events. The word "preached" in verse 19 is not the usual word in the New Testament to describe the preaching of the gospel. It literally means to herald a message. Jesus suffered and died on the Cross, His body being put to death, and His spirit died when He was made sin. But His spirit was made alive and He yielded it to the Father. According to Peter, sometime between His death and His resurrection Jesus made a special proclamation to "the spirits in prison."

    To begin with, Peter referred to people as "souls" and not "spirits" (3:20). In the New Testament, the word "spirits" is used to describe angels or demons, not human beings, and verse 22 seems to bear out this meaning. Also, nowhere in the Bible are we told that Jesus visited hell. Acts 2:31 says that He went to "Hades" (New American Standard Bible), but "Hades" is not hell. The word "Hades" refers to the realm of the dead, a temporary place where they await the resurrection. Revelation 20:11-15 in the NASB or the New International Version give a clear distinction between the two. Hell is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place.

    Our Lord yielded His spirit to the Father, died, and at some time between death and resurrection, visited the realm of the dead where He delivered a message to spirit beings (probably fallen angels; see Jude 6) who were somehow related to the period before the flood in Noah's time. Verse 20 makes this clear. Peter did not tell us what He proclaimed to these imprisoned spirits, but it could not be a message of redemption since angels cannot be saved (Hebrews 2:16). It was probably a declaration of victory over Satan and his hosts (1 Peter 3:22; Colossians 2:15). Ephesians 4:8-10 also seems to indicate that Christ went to “paradise” (Luke 16:20; 23:43) and took to heaven all those who had believed in Him prior to His death. The passage doesn’t give a great amount of detail about what occurred, but most Bible scholars agree that this is what is meant by “led captivity captive.”

    So, all that to say, the Bible isn’t entirely clear what exactly Christ did for the three days between His death and resurrection. It does seem, though, that He was preaching victory over the fallen angels and/or unbelievers. What we can know for sure is that Jesus was not giving people a second chance for salvation. The Bible tells us that we face judgment after death (Hebrews 9:27), not a second chance. There isn't really any definitively clear answer for what Jesus was doing for the time between His death and resurrection. Perhaps this is one of the mysteries we will understand once we reach glory.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/where-was-Jesus.html#ixzz2VNGrD6U5
     
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