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Show me the Scripture that those who were raised from the dead died again. If you cannot produce those Scriptures, it is wrong to infer that such an event happened. God could have just as easily taken those who Jesus raised from the dead as He took Enoch in days his day.

 

Hey HisWitness,

They were caught up into heaven with Christ (Hosea 6:2; 1Cor. 15:20; Eph. 4:8).

Their home was a heavenly home (Lev. 25:23), and Christ's death was able to bring them to their inheritance (Heb. 9:15).

 

Hey saturneptune,

Have you ever read Zechariah 6:1-8?

Zechariah 6, NASB, bold emphasis mine
1 Now I lifted up my eyes again and looked, and behold, four chariots were coming forth from between the two mountains; and the mountains were bronze mountains. 2 With the first chariot were red horses, with the second chariot black horses, 3 with the third chariot white horses, and with the fourth chariot strong dappled horses. 4 Then I spoke and said to the angel who was speaking with me, “What are these, my lord?” 5 The angel replied to me, “These are the four spirits of heaven, going forth after standing before the Lord of all the earth, 6 with one of which the black horses are going forth to the north country; and the white ones go forth after them, while the dappled ones go forth to the south country. 7 When the strong ones went out, they were eager to go to patrol the earth.” And He said, “Go, patrol the earth.” So they patrolled the earth. 8 Then He cried out to me and spoke to me saying, “See, those who are going to the land of the north have appeased My wrath in the land of the north.”​

 

If Jesus was in paradise (Luke 23:43) while he was in Hades (Acts 2:25, 27), then paradise was in Hades.

If paradise is now in the third heaven, then there was a movement of paradise.

Thus, the passage about Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16), would be telling of a reality that is not present right now, i.e., there used to be a chasm fixed, so that the righteous that dwelt in Hades couldn't go to the side of Hades where the wicked were tormented in. If paradise has moved, then the righteous no longer go to Hades upon death.

 

Lazerus for sure died again after he was raised.

 

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what do you think happened to Lazerus after he was raised ???

he went back to his house where he was before he died and lived until he died again ???

what other reasoning are you going to put in it ??

 

Scripture?

John 12 is the last time Lazarus is mentioned in the Bible. Nowhere does it say he died, or that he was killed. Yes, it says they sought to kill Lazarus, but that does not necessarily mean they were successful.

 

So fred tell us what happened to lazerus outside of naturally dieing again like any human would do ???

did he go up in a whirlwind to YAH---oh btw Elijah never went to heaven---History records him being at another location on the earth after that event.

also the OT folks that were raised from the dead--did they not die again in flesh ???

Did the womans child that Yahshua raised in the NT--did the child not die again in the flesh ???

 

Scripture does not say what happened to those people who were raised from the dead. So at best it is only speculation to say what happened to them.

But one thing is for sure...

It is appointed for man once to die, not multiple times.

What history records Elijah being on Earth? Matthew 17 says that event was a vision. In other words, elijah was not there in the flesh.

 

By stating that scripture you are saying that they did not die the 2nd time in the flesh--which you have NO scriptural grounds to assume.

you only have to assume the natural process of man and that is to die in the flesh again.

 

Only one appointment with death, not two, not mre.

You are arguing against the plain written Word...


Hebrews 9:27 (KJV) 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Doesn't say multiple times.

Either there is only one appointment with death and after this the judgement, or the above verse is a lie. I will not be so bold as to embrace the latter statement.

 

easy to take a scripture and say what you want--you can even use the same scriptures and say there is NO God.

just because you use a scripture doesn't make it like you are saying it to be

maybe there is some understanding you are missing --that your not seeing.

 

Both Enoch and Elijah have an appointment with death. I believe they are the two witnesses in Revelation.

As to the Believers at the time of the Rapture, the death of their physical body will happen when they see Jesus and become like Him.

 

Said the master manipulator of Scripture.

said the master manipulator of Scripture.

said the master manipulator of Scripture.

 

BUT if Enoch and Elijah are in heaven then they have dispatched of the this fleshly body--because that which is corruptible cannot enter the presence of YAH..and if they have their new bodies in that case-- How can they die after receiving that which is NOT corruptible--what do you think they are gonna do--put back on their fleasly body so they can die ???