HELL IS NOT LAKE OF FIRE

Welcome Brother John!

Let me clarify one thing. Hell exists now and has since the earth was created in Adam's day. Hell will continue to exist until after the 1000 year kingdom when it will be cast into the LOF.

Every thing else you said is easy to prove correct from scripture.

Lacy Evans

PS. How is your health brother?

BTW: Brother Squire (Or other moderator), perhaps this thread should be moved to the "Baptist Theology" forum since we have already been discussing it there for several weeks.

 

As you said...proveable from scripture.

 

Hey, we don't dance!

 

It's ironic, kinda.

You can believe that a Christian can lose his salvation and go to the LOF for all eternity. But you don't get a sect named after you.

You can believe (correctly) in absolute eternal security but take it to the extreme where you turn the grace of God into lasciviousness. (ie. no responsibility, just cookies at the Judgment Seat.) You don't get a sect named after you.

But you can believe as many Baptist and Brethren writers have taught over the years that we are eternally secure but subject to chastening after death at the JSOC and we are a sect.


I guess we are in good company. here is a "sect' in scripture.

PS. Hey James, I danced the other day at flag football practice. I was running my son's offensive huddle and we stayed too long in the neighborhood of a family of fire-ants. Disco fever,man!!

 

Hell was the word sometimes used for "grave." So what is being cast into the lake of fire here is the grave, not hell as in the hell of eternal punishment, but hell as the grave, or place of the dead. In other words, death and the grave, brought in by sin, are done away with.

The Lake of Fire is what we think of as hell - the place of eternal punishment.

 

Yeah,
If it don't square with a certain someone, then it is a sect.
Or heresy.
Or false doctrine, i.e. a lie.
Or whatever, fill in the blank__________.
And supposedly this forum is for discussing and/or debating theology.
But woe unto the man who introduces something unfamiliar!
I thought discussion was more than just contradicting what someone has to say. I thought discussion was something like presenting a position with facts. And supporting those facts with Scripture and recognized scholars/theologians/preachers. Or something to that effect anyhow.
Hmmm. Guess I was wrong.
Must not be a Baptist Board after all.

I do apologize for my sarcasm. But I do get exasperated sometimes.
In His srvice;
Jim

 

And just what facts did you present to us Jim?
I saw a lot of words posted, but little facts.
DHK

 

So was the rich man already in the lake of fire when he begged for Lazarus to come cool his tongue?
Luke 16
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

 

I may not agree exactly with Marcia. But as to your question, Yes I believe he was, and still is, and will be there until Hell is cast into the Lake of Fire.
DHK

 

So when did he get cast into the lake of fire, if no one else does until after the thousand years are finished? The bible says he was in hell, and he was tormented by flames. Hell is cast into the lake of fire at the same time everyone else is at the end of the millennium. Even Satan himself is kept in hell until after the thousand years. How do you explain this?